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Gloryangel
FusionFall Name : Josie Gloryangel Level : 17 Posts : 2654 Join date : 2012-09-03 Age : 27 FF Location : ♫ ♪ where the party's at ♪ ♫
| Subject: That background tho... Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:09 am | |
| Soooo Sorry X, I hate to break your heart, but do you think we could change the background back? hahaha I mean, we could change it back, or do something since it's almost halloween... I mean, not that I don't like bernie sanders or his propoganda... but...... i mean.... he IS no longer in the running.... |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:42 pm | |
| Bernie doesn't do propaganda. We need to have a good long talk... I wrote a long post but I'll write a short version:
If Jesus existed (I believe he did but I don't believe in ANY religion) he would be in favour of Bernie. "Helping the poor" (middle class is shrinking??) "not being greedy" (corporate corruption??) "turn the other cheek" (WAR in the middle east??) these are NOT conservative values. They fit democratic socialism far more. Conservatives are rich old men who own the media and thus influence your political opinion. Are you getting the picture now? Jesus would never support such a messed up ideology purely for the benefit of the rich at the poor's expense.
Pope Francis is pretty close to Bernie's political views. They differ on social things like premarital rules, marriage rules on orientation, etc. But they both agree on a more ethical economy. Why should bankers get millions in bonuses, corporations receive subsidies and dodge nearly all tax...while there are millions of people who are either struggling to pay the rent, are homeless, in debt, depressed, etc.? The democrats and republicans are almost the same disgusting beast. Both right wing. (Very right wing by international standards...only in America is "universal health care" "unrealistic" ...lol because politicians day so, so it must be right...right? Lol no. Ghandi and Nelson Mandela also think similarly (left centre-ish) while corrupt people like Thatcher, Netanyahu, George Bush, etc. are establishment right wingers drenched in corruption, war and deliberate poverty-maintaining policy.
Conservatism / right wing ideology summed up = conserving "cheap labour". And that's pretty pathetic that the elites want to keep poor people poor so they can control them more. I don't know if you're too busy to have an unbiased investigation in politics but when I started researching politics a year or so ago, I went in with common sense, logic and critical thinking skills and nothing else. No religious or political indoctrination. Sure, in school I was taught about the horrors of war...is that propaganda? Or is it the truth? It's objectively true that war is always a bad thing and can be prevented. But imagine if I was brought up with nonsense like: "taxes are bad" "universal health care is unrealistic" "you're lazy if you don't have a good job" "those darn terrorists need to be blown up along with their country" "kids, the NRA recommend you buy a gun when you're older as they protect you" "the poor only have themselves to blame" "corporations have the same rights as people" "money is a form of free speech" "corporate corruption is just conspiracy theory nonsense from treehuggers" "if you're born a certain way, you shouldn't be allowed the same rights and you might be a sinner too" etc.etc.etc. This is conservative/ right wing garbage. This is what the establishment want because they benefit from having a poor population that does as they command.
Jesus was definitely not right wing. But even if you agree with me on this, you're probably still wondering about taxes...well with a better economy and less corruption, your taxes will be better spent helping you and fellow people rather than helping to line the pockets of the already super rich.
One day you'll see I'm right. But I guess it depends on how busy you are since you have a lot to research if you're gonna make your own political mind up free from the propaganda already ingrained in your mind, since you were probably raised with conservative concepts ("freedom" seems to be a buzzword conservatives use frequently but NEOconservatives with their invasive surveillance for example...that's the antithesis of freedom).
Also I think charter schools are like grammar schools. Nothing special about them. The teachers are what make a school special. Grammar/charter schools just cherry pick high performing students so how does that fix the education problem? The UK conservative government is trying to push grammar schools and they've shown to statistically slightly improve grades for the very rich, and slightly worsen grades for the poor/average student...so clearly it's another self-serving initiative. Typical of our corrupt conservative government. It would probably also make a dead end for poorer students with lower grades as they'd be less able to improve. There's probably also an element of elitism. School recruiting systems will not improve teaching standards. I've been to many many institutions (schools, colleges) And the only thing that matters is not the reputation or strict requirements....only the teaching matters. If we funnel the most able (mostly richer students) then obviously you're going to get less high performing working class people...meaning less qualified teachers ....meaning worse performing students. That's the cycle. You need to good teachers to make good students. I've seen mostly poor teaching in both rich and poor areas.
Well I hope my post makes you think more objectively about politics. You should examine propaganda you've internalised from childhood and actually question/research if it's true or false/misleading And look at evidence from both/all sides of the political spectrum And judge who is lying and who is being suppressed from voicing their views in the mainstream media. The real left wing hasn't been in power in America since FDR. The democratic party is not left wing. There are only a few current day exceptions like Bernie Sanders and Tim Canova. (And Bernie was third party before...only joined the democratic party because third parties ALWAYS get ignored by the corrupt media).
I know it's a tough sell since the state where you're from is really conservative biased but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. If you find the truth yourself, I guess it's more satisfying. |
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SlimTheJackson
FusionFall Name : Slim De Jackson Level : 0 Posts : 661 Join date : 2011-12-21 Age : 25 FF Location : Old Times
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:10 pm | |
| TLDR Is the background ever changing? |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:01 pm | |
| Yeah, probably. I'm not on a computer so someone else would have to make one for now. |
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Gloryangel
FusionFall Name : Josie Gloryangel Level : 17 Posts : 2654 Join date : 2012-09-03 Age : 27 FF Location : ♫ ♪ where the party's at ♪ ♫
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:25 am | |
| haha yeeeaah so I'm just not going to read that, because I even looked up the definition for propaganda beforehand xD yes the connotation is negative of propaganda, propaganda can be true, and it's just something created to promote a cause, person, or agenda xP So in which case, with that definition anything about jesus could be called propaganda too You don't need to be so uptight about things haha it's okay and like i said, it has nothing to do with him or anything either it's just a little odd and might be scaring off some people, possibly hahaha (as in people who find the sight and then are like "umm what") Love you X ButIDoFindItFunnyHowYouAlwaysBringUpWhereI'mFromWhenWashingtonHasBeenLeftWingSinceICanRemember (I go against the norms there) xD |
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 27 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:41 am | |
| Not to mention it still has snowflakes on it. |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 22 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:12 am | |
| I also think the background should be changed from what it is now since: A.) It's not Christmas, B.) Like Glory said, Bernie ain't running for prez so there isn't any real need for it, and C.) The background kind of looks really cluttered and unpleasant if I'm going to be completely honest. |
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Gloryangel
FusionFall Name : Josie Gloryangel Level : 17 Posts : 2654 Join date : 2012-09-03 Age : 27 FF Location : ♫ ♪ where the party's at ♪ ♫
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:53 am | |
| - Undead Brad wrote:
- I also think the background should be changed from what it is now since: A.) It's not Christmas, B.) Like Glory said, Bernie ain't running for prez so there isn't any real need for it, and C.) The background kind of looks really cluttered and unpleasant if I'm going to be completely honest.
Well now it's almost christmas again xP but bernie is still out (although to be fair to X he IS still a write-in in about 11 states)... but yes, soon the elections will be over anyways haha But yeah, we could keep Oli's drawing, but maybe just have a more simple background.... keep it classy |
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 27 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:35 pm | |
| - Gloryangel wrote:
- But yeah, we could keep Oli's drawing...
Yeah we better. =.= |
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Gloryangel
FusionFall Name : Josie Gloryangel Level : 17 Posts : 2654 Join date : 2012-09-03 Age : 27 FF Location : ♫ ♪ where the party's at ♪ ♫
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:22 am | |
| - Oliver Zombieweasel wrote:
- Gloryangel wrote:
- But yeah, we could keep Oli's drawing...
Yeah we better. =.= stickin' up for ya bud it's a good drawing ^.^ I remember when I was going to make one and then realized it would be too hard hahaha Maybe I should try it again |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:41 pm | |
| I love it when I waste time and effort to write a long post and it's ignored..... *insert gif* (And a completely valid post even if you disagree with the definition for propaganda, points still stand.)
Well anyway.... If I could vote, I would vote Jill Stein. Writing in Bernie is most likely a waste/probably won't be counted but I'm not 100% sure on that.
Nearly all states have Jill Stein on the ballot, the (3 I think?) that don't, still accept writing in Jill Stein, so it ain't all bad. But obviously a direct vote is better than a write in.
Write ins should only be done as a last resort if your preferred candidate is not on the ballot.
I also think the polls are rigged/biased as they were done with methodology that targets democrat/republican homes WHEN OVER 40% OF THE VOTERS ARE INDEPENDENTS. And Trump/Clinton are literally the most hated presidential candidates in U.S. history.
The media and their polls are NOT to be trusted. There's more Jill voters than they want us to think.
Bernie supporters who are sick of the rigging/media collusion with Hillary, those people ALONE would surpass what the polls claim. Let alone independents are the majority and people see through Trump/Clinton's corruption.
Gary Johnson supports TPP so he's also corrupt.
Jill is the only good one left.
You shouldn't vote for who the media says to vote for. You should vote for who you actually want, hence if everyone has this logical attitude, Trump/Clinton would lose easily. It's psychological, they force the two party system out of fear. It's garbage.
The media were saying "IT'S A RACE BETWEEN TRUMP AND CLINTON" even on DAY ONE of THE PRIMARIES. Yes, they have the nerve to force the binary choice when the primaries were there to give you a choice of several people. The establishment wanted these two all along. I just can't believe there were so many people stupid / easily manipulated enough to fall for it on day one.
But we'll find out when the results come, how many critical thinking voters there really are. I certainly think the 2% that Jill is apparently polling at is a BIG FAT LIE. It's probably more like 7-15% at least. Even Fox News slipped up and showed Jill at 7%! But nearly all other polls showing a measly 2%? SEEMS LEGIT. *Insert sarcastic gif lol*
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Gloryangel
FusionFall Name : Josie Gloryangel Level : 17 Posts : 2654 Join date : 2012-09-03 Age : 27 FF Location : ♫ ♪ where the party's at ♪ ♫
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:50 am | |
| I read that one, no worries But, to be fair... It is off topic... But yeah, valid points, but what about the background? Haha i just think we might scare people away I love you X ^.^ |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:25 pm | |
| You're right, it was off topic (not that, that ever stopped us at Xtreme...except really useless stuff) but I just had to clear things up to avoid misinformation (whether it was deliberate or unintentional, Glory!). Well I'm still without a laptop (didn't need one for a while after my old one stopped booting, so I postponed purchasing a new one unless there was a good deal (good specs, reasonable price, trustworthy seller, reliable brand, etc.) or if it came to the point I really needed one. I did buy a new one but realised a small screen defect so returned it and got fed up with finding another one as good or from a good brand. I always seem to get faulty goods, darn you corporations not taking customer service and reliability seriously! Anyway, Oliver could put one of his wallpapers on? They're pretty good. @Undead Brad, why didn't you tell me it looked cluttered at your resolution, earlier, when I wasn't busy lol? At my phone/old laptop's resolution, the wallpaper looked fine if I recall correctly. I'm sorry, fellow Xtremists, that I haven't had the time to make Xtreme more fun for those who have free time / can balance time well. With Halloween approaching, I would've liked to make a new video, redesign the forum, Halloween art contests, etc. Perhaps I'll learn from my mistakes and actually balance things better one day. We'll see. Ah this post is getting too long as it is... End transmission. |
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Gloryangel
FusionFall Name : Josie Gloryangel Level : 17 Posts : 2654 Join date : 2012-09-03 Age : 27 FF Location : ♫ ♪ where the party's at ♪ ♫
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:27 am | |
| Wow! That's a lot to do before halloween! Even I'm busy... man life is hectic amiright haha |
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Ace Meteor Cometshark
FusionFall Name : Ace Cometshark Level : 36 Posts : 1978 Join date : 2012-05-29 Age : 25 FF Location : Sector V
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:54 pm | |
| I actually read one of X's posts! It's okay X, we all are busy. After calculating how long we've all been here, most of us were high schoolers now the same most are college peeps. So don't stress yourself, and do what you can! LONG LIVE XTREME! |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:52 am | |
| Lol thanks Ace and great GIF! Oliver....Do you have any of your Halloween backgrounds you could put up? It's almost Halloween! It's not just that I'm busy, but I don't have access to a computer right now! What's that?You want me to take my external harddrive to a library computer?What could possibly go... Oliver. You're our only hope. |
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 27 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:41 am | |
| Uh... |
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Ace Meteor Cometshark
FusionFall Name : Ace Cometshark Level : 36 Posts : 1978 Join date : 2012-05-29 Age : 25 FF Location : Sector V
| Subject: Re: That background tho... Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:02 am | |
| The background has changed?! There is a God in heaven.... |
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