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PostSubject: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:06 am

I found a couple of interesting facts from the wiki and the comics. Hope you enjoy!

Dexter: Dexter made a company called DexLabs. What DexLabs did was make weapons, robots, and anything that Dexter can use during a fight. When fusionfall came, He went to turn back on his labratory. From there he created more and more robots and weapons to fight againsed the evil fusions. Thats why he is a guide.

Ben10: Well Ben10's purpose of becoming a guide is that simple. He has an alien technology that turns him into a world saving alien. But heres a thing you might not of known. When ben grew up, He is about 18 in the game. But when he grew up, His watch got more intelligent, more heroism, more advanced alien technology. During the fight of Tech Square, Ben agreed to join the battle and to turn players into leaders.

Double D: Well double d (Edd) isn't much of a heroic/brave person. But what he did changed peoples' opinions about him. Double D is a smart/intelligent, Polite, and very aware of helping his neighborhood. In fusionfall, as you all may know Double D built a cardboard fortress around the cul-de-sac. He and Dexter worked together to figure out the cause and the weaknesses of Fusions. Like ben, Double D agreed to help during the battle and to turn players into leaders.

Bloo: Bloo was a guide for a long time untill dexter found out Imaginary Energy was Lord Fuse's addiction. Like most of characters, Bloo also agreed to join the battle but to remain secretive and invisible to fusions.

Mojo Jojo: Mojo jojo was the powerpuff girls enemy.  But what he did was heroic. In the battle Mojo saved Double D from falling into a giant crater in the ground. and killed most of the characters fusions. He like ben and edd agreed to make players to become leaders.

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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:32 am

Actually, Ben was 15 in-game. Even when Ultimate Alien came out, he still had the 2nd Prototype Omnitrix. He'll still have the finished Omnitrix when he's 18. But in an alternate universe, he'd probably have the Biomnitrix by then.

The Omnitrix then was still the same. Though it started to not work (More than usual). It was originally thought that this was because of Fusion Ben and Fusion Gwen plans on creating a new type of Fusion. It turned out that it was Vilgax.

Though the former could've been the same, and Vilgax was only messing with the Ultimatrix. Even though his concepts changed to have the Ultimatrix, his model still had the Omnitrix. No Idea 

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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:44 am

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Actually, Ben was 15 in-game. Even when Ultimate Alien came out, he still had the 2nd Prototype Omnitrix. He'll still have the finished Omnitrix when he's 18. But in an alternate universe, he'd probably have the Biomnitrix by then.

The Omnitrix then was still the same. Though it started to not work (More than usual). It was originally thought that this was because of Fusion Ben and Fusion Gwen plans on creating a new type of Fusion. It turned out that it was Vilgax.

Though the former could've been the same, and Vilgax was only messing with the Ultimatrix. Even though his concepts changed to have the Ultimatrix, his model still had the Omnitrix. No Idea 

Trust me on this one. I'm a Ben 10 expert, and a sort-of FusionFall historian. Yeah Right I'm also a Nanos in battle expert, but that's beside the point. Razz 
Haha I left some stuff out.

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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:52 am


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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:36 pm

I TOTALLY JEALOUS OF ALL YOU GUISE THAT KNOWS THE ENTIRE STORY.

I wanted to know the story too.... Jelous 


What WAS the weakness of Fusion Matter? Also, the omnitrix doesnt come with its own A.I.

The Internet would beg to disagree since if you spent enough time on the dark side of the internet, you'd immediately think that Ben's watch has the horrid sense of humor of a 4chan professional internet troll. And you cant deny it either.

It would be that creep that would joke about setting a puppy on fire and then tell you that its joking. You both laugh, you uncomfortably.....while wondering if it was even joking in the first place.



Lemmie give you an example:

Big, evil tenticle-faced alien comes to earth. Destruction follows swiftly in his wake. Ben hero's up to confront him. A massive fight ensures. Just as Ben is about to finish off the threat..........guess who decides the fight is too boring enough to continue like it should?

bleep-bloop-bleep-bloop *flash of light*

*omnitrix cackles devilishly as it watches its 4 foot tall squishy owner stare at the feet of his 3 story tall evil adversary*



But I digress.

The watch is less like a device of its own; but rather a device to connect to the main computer.

I'll compare it to real world logic since thats what its based off of:

The watch contacts the main computer Primus and requests a DNA chain of a specific creature.

Primus sends the info back and the Omnitrix then initializes and changes the wearer's DNA to that of the requested creature.

The watch is still much too small to contain all of the DNA of every creature stored within Primus.
Its fascinating to see what a strand of DNA would look like in real world sense. I think I saw a demonstration once on DNA. Once seperated and pulled out of a cell, the guy giving the demonstration pulled out the DNA. Did you know it looks like a thin, transparent line of slime??
Weirdest day ever for me. I think hair is thicker than a strand of DNA.  Shrug 

But yeah, dont know why I wanted to explain that.

(of course I could be wrong on how the watch connects with Primus in the first place  Razz )
Also, even though due to the size, the device wouldnt have the size to store all of that DNA into such a small device.

........let alone keeping them separated.

Would hate for something to rupture inside of the device, causing all that genetic material to get mixed up in there.


Hate for it to cause some sort of.........unwanted Ultimatrix function.... Troll Face 



Dex, however, is just awesome.
I think he was almost everyone's favorite.

Before fusionfall happened and during, I think most people forgot about Dex's true nature. Unfortunately, FusionFall didnt help out with this either. They portrayed him as a level headed hero. He was a genius, designed and built weapons, gadgets, and vehicles aid in the resistance against Fuse. He was almost a Gary stu. To be honest, he was my only choice out of not really feeling up for the other three............until I eventually saw one of the older shows of Dexter's Laboratory.

HE'S FREAKIN INSANE YO!


Did you know:

that he will
LITERALLY go OUT OF HIS WAY to kill all of his friends in Dungeon & Dragons?!

Rocked a.........LEGIT.....purple ## suit to a Science competition?
Why is that in the blocked list?? Neutral 


First day he met Mandark, he evilishly duped him into inviting Dee Dee into his lab......simply because he said that she would enjoy the visit to his lab and he might have a chance with her.



Suckes at playing Street Fighter......or any manner of Fighting game.

(dont worry dex. I suck at fighters too)

He's the most peaceful sci-fi fan out there. He accepts both Star Trek and Star Wars into his life


Thing is, Dexter's a lot lesssss sane then what we give him credit for. And I like that about him. Watching those episodes on netflix did wonders on my impressions of all of the characters from not only that show but others as well.

Bet you also didnt know he could get JUST AS petty as Mandark and was only just a busted hair follicle away from being JUST LIKE mandark.
As I think back to it......I dont really know WHY Dex didnt go over the edge and be an anti hero. He has all the personality traits to do so.

He could be petty, Jealous, Vain and VEEERRRRY prideful.

He's epic at what he does and he knows it. No shame in that. Guess its the degree in which you HAVE said short comings that makes the difference.

Of course, who wants a NORMAL person to be your mentor anyways.






I would have loved to see Rex as a Guide. But I then digress once I think of Rex's nature. He's not the type to stay on the sidelines.

What I cant understand is why Samurai Jack WASNT A GUIDE!? He's the absolute perfect candidate. He has ALOT to teach.....Is a master martial artsman, Is patient and wise, and not to mention well versed in Gurella warfare.

Why, above all of EVERYONE was he NOT a guide or a spear head in the fight? I got to level 21 and still never heard anything about him. I should have......but didnt.

Another thing I'm gonna get off a tangent to talk about, I wanted to see Titan, Megas, and an improved badder version of the RoboDexo take to the skies. So disappoint. I wanted my Gurren Lagaan refrence darn it...

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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:51 pm

Actually, the prototype Omnitrix DID have A.I. If I remember correctly, it's A.I. was the reason it gave Ben the wrong alien sometimes. Choosing the right alien for the job, instead of the selected alien. This was fixed during it's update.

Though it did start giving Ben the different alien than what was selected again later on. Though this was a glitch due to Kevin's interference. If the Ultimatrix did the same (I can't remember), that was almost certainly a glitch.

The Omnitrix didn't get a more advanced A.I. until it's update, where it was able to talk to Ben, reverse DNAlien DNA, and even stop working when new alien DNA was detected. The reason it never did this for aliens such as Vilgax was because his DNA was already hidden deep inside it's database. Well, not his DNA, but you know what I mean. The original also had this option, but it was more simple, and with a shorter range.

The Ultimatrix also had these functions, including the evolved aliens being sentient. However, that was not intended. The Ultimate function also wasn't intended, and was added by Albedo.

The current and the Omnitrix is very different. It has no connection to Primus, as all aliens in the database are holographic projections. It also doesn't have an Ultimate function.

As for the Biomnitrix, little is known. Except for it being a bigger version of the first prototype. And as for the Unitrix, that was just a prototype Omnitrix. Azmuth was originally going to send one to each civilization.

...You never know how much you know of something until you type a half-page essay on it. Seriously 

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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:00 pm

Oliver Zombieweasel wrote:
...You never know how much you know of something until you type a half-page essay on it. Seriously 

 Seriously . . . . . .

Nooooo..............you didnt....
For School!?

You know what? whatever! That was pretty awesome if you did. Hope you got an A.

lastly,

I still think it has a devilish sense of humor...
Cant convince me otherwise. Razz 

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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:04 pm

No. I didn't. I was talking about here. Razz In fact, I don't think I ever had to write an essay in school. Shrug In fact, back then, I don't think I knew as much about the Omnitrix as I do today.

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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:13 pm

Maybe samurai jack was a leader, they probably put jack and tetrax as generals in the war, fighting in the front lines and making you a fusion killing machine. As for Ben and Dex and the other guides, the people of the planet probably wanted the highest ranked fighters as guides, Ben saved the universe a number of times, Dexter is a boy genius who can create anything, Edd...well I'm not so sure what makes him special, but hey it was they're choice  Shrug  and finally Mojo, even though he's a villain, he's still a genius, completely crazy but a genius, they took advantage and persuaded mojo to help them in the war. They wanted the biggest and brightest minds to help them so they chose the main geniuses of the CN universe...except for ben, he's an egocentric idiot, but he's got the omnitrix sooo...yeah  Glare  As for the rest of characters, they probably played a role in the war as a commander a special agent or other stuff like that.

Personally I would have picked better candidates to play the role of the guides, I mean seriously, Bloo!? Who came up with the dumb idea of making him a guide?  Seriously  Maybe Doc Saturday, junipher lee or TOM, just imagine how cool that would be? TOM as your guide!!  Wheee But anyway, all in all I think they could have done a better job with the guides.

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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:19 pm

My Oli Sense is tingling. Seriously 

Bloo was never a Guide. He only helped Edd. Ok, so 'helped' isn't exactly the right word. But still. Edd was a Guide because of his geniusness. If it wasn't for him, everyone would have scrambled brains!

And Ben wasn't egocentric at the time. They added him when Alien Force was announced back in 2008, when he was more serious. I remember when the Birthday Bash was on, and that everyone suddenly wanted Doyle Saturday as a Guide. If you think about it, that would've been awesome. Too Funny 

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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:27 pm

I still think Edd could of picked someone else to help him with that kind of stuff, I mean we all know how unhelpful bloo is Glare  And I guess your right about everyone picking Edd because of his genius...and his great taste in jawbreakers  EyeBrows 

Doyle as a guide huh? That's actually pretty cool.  Think I can imagine receiving battle armor just like his, it would be glorious.  Evilz
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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:29 pm

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I still think Edd could of picked someone else to help him with that kind of stuff, I mean we all know how unhelpful bloo is Glare 

He had Numbuh Two, himself, Billy, Bloo, Courage, and I THINK Jack.

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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:33 pm

He partly had jack helping him. Jack was also helping Dexter with the missing heroes (and demongo) and besides that, he was helping the others fight fusions in the front lines of the world...Man, now that I think of it, jack was a busy guy.  Lolwut




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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:24 am

Well... About the DNA...



The Codon Stream was the key to the primary feature of the prototype Omnitrix and the Ultimatrix in that both were wireless receivers connected to the Codon Stream, allowing them to alter the DNA of their wearer.
When the Omnitrix in question was activated, it opened up a holographic display of all aliens unlocked. When the faceplate was pushed back into place, it emited a signal that is picked up by the volcano on Primus, then sent throughout the Codon Stream and back to the Omnitrix, with the selected alien's DNA attached. The selected DNA is then merged with the wearer's DNA, transforming the user into the selected alien.

What is the Codon Stream?

The Codon Stream was a system of rivers of "green lava" that are spread throughout Primus. The Codon Stream originated in a volcano, which was actually the processing plant for the DNA of the stream.
There were no non-sapient species DNA in the Codon Stream.
Originally, there was thought to be 10,000 DNA samples in the Codon Stream (as hinted in Ben 1000), but Azmuth has revealed that there are samples from every sapient species of every planet in the Milky Way Galaxy: over 1,000,000. According to Dwayne McDuffie, some of these samples included Osmosian DNA, Pierce's Alien half DNA and Human DNA.
In War of the Worlds: Part 1, the Omnitrix stated there were exactly 1,000,903 DNA samples in the Codon Stream at the time.
Ghostfreak was re-added to the Codon Stream after being removed from it in Ghost Town, which made 1,000,904 DNA samples.
In Ben 10:Alien Swarm, Ben gained the form of Nanomech from the Hive, which made 1,000,905 DNA samples.
In Ultimate Alien, Ben obtained the DNA samples of five aliens from the Andromeda Galaxy named Bivalan, Galapagus, P'andor, Andreas and Ra'ad , resulting in a total of 1,000,910 samples.

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PostSubject: Re: What the guides did to become guides FF:   Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:36 am

Brad has got it pretty much right. Yep Though I believe in Ghost Town, Ghostfreak was kicked out of the Codon Stream again. The Codon Stream then gained a different, less-evil strand of Ectonurite DNA, which is the Ghostfreak we see today.

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