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PostSubject: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Sat Feb 27, 2016 5:00 pm

First topic message reminder :

EDIT: This is an old thread about Bernie Sanders.
Unfortunately Bernie is out of the race (let's be honest, due to mass rigging like voter suppression,
shredded ballots, switched registrations, dead people voting....etc.)

But the reasons for Bernie Sanders are virtually the same as the reasons
to vote for Jill Stein, the last remaining candidature who is NOT corrupt.
So I would vote for Jill Stein.
Trump/Clinton/Gary Johnson are all corrupt.
There's not much difference between Trump/Clinton
so what do we have to lose?
Johnson supports the TERRIBLE trade agreement TPP (it's horrible for worker's rights)
and only benefits big corporations at everyone else's expense.

You already know why Trump/Clinton are corrupt and rubbish
candidates, in fact the most hated candidates in U.S. history.
So I strongly believe the media are tricking people into
the idea "you HAVE to vote Trump or Clinton, anyone else is a waste of a vote"
but the polling numbers seem to be very dodgy.
No way could Jill's polling % be that low.

Anyway, here's the old thread:







Again and again inspired by this guy, I decided to finally just make this thread.
(Also inspired by his supporters who seem way more reasonable than those of the opposition which speaks volumes.

He's going against the corporations who
are making the lives of ordinary hard working people difficult.



Bernie is your guy.
If you want certain reasons or question on why I support Bernie Sanders,
let me know but I would have thought it was obvious considering
the other candidates are truly terrible and Bernie Sanders is pretty darn good
and puts people before greedy corporations.

We need a left wing system because a right wing one only benefits
the greedy part of the absolute richest.

The poor have to suffer just for being poor.

I cannot vote since I'm not a U.S. citezen but
if Bernie gets a BIG WIN, it will prove
to the world that even corruption in the U.S. can be reversed
and the working class and middle class have had enough
of financial slavery by the corporations with poor wages
while the corporations store money abroad, robbing the nation of its wealth.
It's greedy and selfish.

If Bernie wins, I believe it may change things for a long time, shifting
more countries towards progressive left wing policies.
(If you disagree with me and somehow think left wing is bad, I will explain
whatever misconceptions you have because I'm certain left wing is the fair side.)

Everyone who can vote and spread the message....please do so.

Please Vote Bernie Sanders.

I only made this thread now but I should have done
a long time ago.

Trust me on this, Bernie is the only logical and fair choice for the bottom
90% poorest. (All of us here on the forum.)

(Although even if I was super rich, I'd still be a Bernie supporter.)
Feel The Bern! Awesome

Some more interesting BERNIE videos (some may be slightly above PG, just slighly):
 


He's like the UK's Jeremy Corbyn (who I will vote for in the UK 2020 Prime Minister general election).



Some interesting CORBYN videos: warning, there might possibly be above PG language.
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PostSubject: Re: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:00 am

That's great, Luffy!
You should ask her to spread the word to everyone she knows. Smile
We need as many votes for Bernie as we can get.

There has been voter suppression fraud in states like
Arizona. (Thousands of democrat registered voters were registered as independent
and couldn't vote. Rage As well as long waiting lines to vote, (like 5 hours waiting in line....PEOPLE HAVE JOBS YOU KNOW! Seriously )
since there was like 60 polling stations only
when last election there was like 200!!! LIES )
Hopefully it will be investigated and a re-vote done
to ensure Bernie gets the votes he deserves.

It was 100% voter suppression fraud.
No way could be "an accident" or "an error". LIES
I think either the hillary campaign, the corrupt DNC or both
were involved in this. It's disgraceful. Sigh

But hopefully Bernie will win the nomination if enough
people vote and surpass the fraud. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:50 am

Bernie sanders will win, cause Donald trump and Hillary Clinton gonna lose (so true) media tells it xD my country's media on the tv XD oh btw it tells that those two gonna lose cause of opponents, finally hahaha

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PostSubject: Re: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:56 am

It seems there's some more celebrities endorsing Bernie now. Very Happy
(Including Miley Cyrus who has switched teams to the real progressive, Bernie. ThumbsUp )

Also I recognise that Loki guy from the son of the mask. cheers
(I didn't know he was Scottish-American! Surprised )


Here's the new video with some celebrities supporting Bernie! cheers

Warning:
 

I didn't know Agent Coulson (Clark Gregg)
supported Bernie! cheers (He re-tweeted a Bernie tweet with the word "amen!" ThumbsUp )



And lol: (Bernie vs Trump vs Hillary vs Carson in Civil War)
I can't believe they actually allowed this video to be uploaded.
(I just assumed Jimmy Kimmel would be under pressure to not go against the corrupt establishment....
who don't want to hear anything about Bernie.)



COME ON NEW YORK!!
Please give Bernie the win! Big Grin
(Bernie was also born in Brooklyn, New York. Wink! )

I know "political revolution" just sounds like campaign language nonsense
but seriously....Bernie Sanders' presidency would BRING BACK DEMOCRACY in the U.S.
and probably send a ripple across the world.
Bernie's the only major candidate who's taking big money (corporate/bank/wall street bribery)
OUT OF POLITICS.
That means, we the people decide how to run the country,
not those billionaire tycoons who store their usually ill-gotten money
abroad and avoid tax, to deprive the people of the nation
what rightfully belongs to them (and what they need).

The economy will continue to be poor if the ultra rich continue
to rig elections by throwing money at the corporate media
to brainwash the masses, throw money at the corrupt candidates
in return for policies that benefit them at the expense of literally
nearly everyone else.

Please Vote Bernie Sanders.
Doesn't matter if you've never voted before,
this is the best time ever to vote.

We've not seen an American candidate like Bernie in DECADES.
This is seriously a turning point in history if he wins.

I'm not saying all corruption in the U.S. will disappear under Bernie
but certainly enough to bring people out of poverty and fix
other problems too (slowing down global warming and introducing renewable energy sources)
that's ALL CONNECTED TO POLITICAL BRIBERY.
If we break these corporate-political ties,
we can get any policy the U.S. needs.
Corruption in the system tells us "no America, even though
you're one of the richest countries on Earth, we cannot give you affordable health care
and university education...."

There's literally corporate masters controlling the country.
And it needs to end. It ends where Bernie's presidency begins.

Give him the democrat nomination.  Party
Vote for Bernie Sanders.
(If you're not registered as a democrat New York, then
the second best thing would be to either
vote for Jill Stein or write in Bernie....not sure which is better but they're
both better options than not voting at all.)

And another thing, Bernie is going to meet the pope! Awesome
I think Bernie got invited because the pope also feels strongly about
the unethical economy we have. (U.S. and other places.)
Things like wealth income inequality, crony capitalism and poverty are things
both Bernie and Pope Francis are concerned about.
Respect to the pope. Yep

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PostSubject: Re: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:05 am

Just for the record and in case anyone's wondering who I would vote for
NOW that Bernie is out of the race....
I would vote for Jill Stein.


Bernie was cheated and there's so much evidence of
election fraud including voter suppression and more direct ways
of rigging the primaries in favour of corrupt Clinton.

Both Trump and Clinton are corrupt so I would vote Dr. Jill Stein
of the Green party rather than those two corrupt sides of the same
establishment coin.

I know many will see voting for a third party candidate
as risky but to me, I think it's better to vote for
what you actually want and believe in for the good of
humanity rather than bowing down to the two corrupt
two party system candidates.

I have done a LOT of research since I heard about Bernie Sanders
several months ago and there have been nothing but scandals
with Trump's links to the mafia in New York,
and the long list of suspicious deaths surrounding the
Clintons and the DNC.
Sorry I had to get dark.

Just thought people would want to know that
neither Trump nor Hillary can be trusted.

Gary Johnson, another third party candidate (from the far right libertarian party)
CANNOT be trusted either but I'd rather he split the vote away from
Trump's extreme right wing voter base and
Jill Stein split Hillary's voter base too.

America (thus probably the world too)
is in such a mess considering the front runners
of the presidency race are dangerously corrupt.

I cannot believe people are so ill informed or that
the rigging has been in such a massive scale.

I actually believe Bernie Sanders won the primary all
along but the rigging painted a different picture.
Over and over again people have said they only
see Bernie Sanders car bumper stickers, rally support, all their
neighbours support Bernie.....and yet Hillary won the primary.
I seriously don't buy it for a millisecond.

The only good candidate left in the race that's known
to a reasonable degree is Jill Stein from the Green party.
She's almost the same as Bernie in policies (common sense policies in my opinion).

I'm not forcing my views on anyone but
if I were a U.S. citizen, I would vote for Jill Stein
and NEVER any of the other candidates.
To my knowledge, every reasonably known
candidate except Jill Stein, is corrupt and you can see it
with their scandals, political voting records, policies and campaign funding
sources.

It's looking bleak but Jill Stein's voter share is rising.
Gary Johnson is polling slightly better than Jill Stein currently
but the good news about that is it's spitting the right wing votes.
I just hope Jill Stein comes out on top.

I think about 40-60% of voters will be INDEPENDENTS (third party voters, as in, NOT democrat, NOT republican)
do I feel MAYBE the polling is dishonest in some way.
Trump and Clinton are the MOST HATED presidential candidates in U.S. history.
Almost as if it was planned from the beginning that the front runners
would be those two with all the corrupt media bias.
The media has praised corrupt Hillary the most.
The media has given free coverage to corrupt Trump the most.
The media has ignored and smeared Bernie the most.
What does that tell us?

Jill Stein - Very Good policies, honest, campaign only funded by small contributions (NOT corporations)
Trump - CORRUPT
Clinton - CORRUPT
Gary Johnson - CORRUPT

I honestly cannot back down and support
the lesser evil...especially since the alternatives
are more evil than once thought.
I can't even tell who's the lesser evil anymore
because they're ALL TERRIBLE (except Jill Stein who's very similar to Bernie)
and they're so bad in DIFFERENT WAYS.
Besides, once a lying politician, always a lying politician.

According to that logic therefore, I CANNOT assume Trump
is bluffing with his policies because he's a liar like the rest
of the corrupt candidates AND changes his policies frequently (flip flopping).
It's just wishful thinking to think Trump is just
pretending to be messed up and will do a 180 turn if he wins.
Not gonna happen in my opinion.
You can't expect someone like Trump who flip flops mid sentence,
lies on a regular basis and has many scandals following him,
to be like Bernie once in office.
That's just unrealistic.
I know he was exaggerating his racist nature to appeal
to racists and the xenophobic people who blame immigrants
rather than their own government, for their economic hardships.
But even if Trump was bluffing about the wall and other nasty xenophobic stuff,
it's possibly the least of our worries considering his awful foreign policy and
economic plans which would send the country into even more debt as well as worse
economic situations for the less well off.
Henry Kissinger who was involved with starting the Iraq war,
was the foreign policy advisor to Hillary AND was going to be the foreign policy
advisor for Trump too!
I don't know if that's still the case but it should tell you that they're just
two sides of the same establishment coin.


The only hope for this election cycle is Jill Stein.
I think the reason Bernie Sanders endorsed Hillary was that either he was threatened (physically, emotionally, politically, etc.)
or was forced in a kind of ethical dilemma where he thinks he may
become a "spoiler candidate" if he didn't endorse Hillary which means spitting the vote and causing Trump to win. (Which he said he wanted to avoid at all costs.)
But in my eyes, choosing between Trump and Clinton is NOT an option.

I think Bernie would have actually done better if he endorsed Jill Stein.
Still, the man has woken millions of people into seeing the corruption
in the U.S. and encouraging new generations to get off their
tablets, consoles, TVs, phones, etc. and actually be involved in politics for once which
gives me hope that the next election in 2020, someone like Bernie will win in a landslide.

Some peoples' lives literally depend on this current election though.
I mean, even if you think Hillary is a lesser evil to Trump,
she still is likely to try to invade IRAN.
AND provoke Russia into a war with her STUPID
no fly zone policy in Syria which will inevitably lead to
Russian planes being shot down and you seriously DON'T wanna do that.
(Even if the planes were automated with no person inside, it would anger Russia and quite rightly so).
The corrupt American government is probably not telling the truth on what's
going on in Syria as you can imagine which the American
industrial-military complex and the FACT that the C I A and Pentagon
have funded BOTH sides of the Syrian civil war.
That's not even a conspiracy theory with lacking evidence, 
it's officially confirmed.  Lolwut

Although I can't say I trust Putin, I would guess what Russia is doing is probably
closer to ethical than what American forces have been forced/tricked into doing.
But I'm not an expert in the middle eastern wars so...
I wonder if I should change the background and incorporate Jill Stein into it. Think

Jill Stein can continue the political revolution that Bernie started.
People need to just stop falling for the two party system and stop
watching the corrupt media.
I would be great if CNN, Fox News, etc. we're just boycotted out of
outrage.
There's even been leaked emails confirming the democrat party
colluded with the media to promote Hillary over Bernie.
It's just disgusting what they're getting away with.

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PostSubject: Re: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:16 am

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PostSubject: Re: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:42 pm

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Glad to see some people still are this place is odd.  Ed Face

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PostSubject: Re: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:26 pm

Yeah... So many people want to stand up for what they believe in and vote for a third party... 

But that's not how it works... 

It sucks... 

But honestly choosing the lesser of the two evils is the ONLY way to go. 

If you don't vote, or vote third party, that's one more chance the person you hate the most will be president... 

Yeah, it seriously is lame, but there's no way around it :/ 


I honestly don't even see how either of these candidates are ALLOWED to run... 
I mean, I personally don't know much of trumps illegal activities (heck maybe he doesn't have any (which I doubt)) But i do know a lot of hillary's... 

*sigh* 

I guess we'll see... 

But honestly, we talk as if this is the worst election of all time, when really it isn't... there have been PLENTY of elections, even at the start of the nations history, where both were horrible choices hahaha 

And I mean... it is just four years? *cringe*

I'm not saying I won't vote... 
But, as a person of faith, you can betcha bottom dollar I'll be praying about this a lot xD hahahaha and hopefully I'll be able to have a clear conscience knowing I did the best I could.

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PostSubject: Re: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:11 pm

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PostSubject: Re: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:44 am

@Rock, haven't heard from you in ages!
I wonder what most people are up to now.
Guessing school/college/university/work. Neutral
Anyway, I hope third party candidates are given a chance.
I don't believe in the lesser evil in this case.
I think most of the time, the lesser evil should be rejected just as the 
worse evil would. Even if polls would show a low chance of winning,
I would still stick with Jill Stein as I now know how deep the corruption goes with
both major candidates and I reject both and don't want to give into the lesser evil.
They'll do this lesser evil stuff next time, I'm almost sure of it unless big political
changes happen about political finance. (I.e. unless it's made illegal for corporations/billionaires
to donate to campaigns including loopholes.)

@Glory, it's pretty bad.
Trump/Clinton are the most hated presidential candidates in U.S. history.
People really want a third party candidate but are too scared to vote outside
the establishment two party system.
I would have no such fear, I've voted the lesser evil before but I no longer want to go down that route.
Luckily more and more people have figured out the corruption but according to these polls,
there's still too many people scared to vote third party.
Sadly I think it can be rigged anyway so what's the point.
Although I think the primaries were easier to rig.
Something about diebold machines being easy to hack or even
open yourself! (Shhh, you didn't hear this from me. Ninja)

For decades it's been a very right wing candidate against an even worse one.
And both major candidates have been part of the establishment and completely corrupt.
But this time, on top of business as usual, there is the fear of Trump being a fascist beyond
what we think is an act, (since Trump changes his policies so frequently, we don't know bad he really is)
and Clinton's obsession with invading Iran, provoking Russia and reversing her position on
the HORRIBLE TTP and TTIP corporate trade agreements that benefit NO ONE but corporations...at OUR expense. 

Both Trump/Clinton will impact people in different ways but will hit the
working/middle class, homeless people, possibly people in Iran and other countries in that region,
the environment, the sick, etc.
Most people will be hit hard economically and socially.
I honestly think polls are dishonest since the media
FROM THE BEGINNING have been pushing "it's a race between Trump and Clinton"
even in the early primary period!!!!
That indicates to me that this has been planned from the beginning and it makes
me sick.
I think Clinton will mostly be worse than Obama.
And he was pretty bad, although Bush was even worse.
But let's remain optimistic that third party candidates get more air time on TV
so Jill Stein can offer a way out.
People's lives and quality of life, livelihoods, etc. are at stake. Nostalgia

@Oliver, Hom's the logical choice....if you don't want to
taste Thor's hammer. Troll Face

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PostSubject: Re: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:50 am

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PostSubject: Re: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:47 pm

Mon Dieu X, how much time in the day do you have to write so much stuff?

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PostSubject: Re: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:17 pm

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What is not commonly known about the X is it's ability to slow down time. Ed Face

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PostSubject: Re: VOTE JILL STEIN (Old thread about BERNIE SANDERS -- U.S. Presidential Election 2016   Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:40 pm

Impressed  A-Amazing! Please teach me your ways, Magister X!

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