First topic message reminder :

A member signed up recently on the dA's FusionFall Fan Club page and posted this comment about a Project for the FusionFall community. I took a look at it...........and......well......

Me Gusta.
Muy, muy, MUCHO.


The link that they provided took me to FusionFall Central, where they were originally talking about this so called project. Good of them to NOT spread the news because that shtuff would have been PLENTY HELPFUL forever and a day ago....but alass, I digress.

The Thread poster hosted up this PDF of a letter to petition FusionFall to Give attention back to the game and work on new ideas that players want to see.
Here is the Link to the document online:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11JMYTY2ACn6SN5vjNk0jaA5CBey6GG_b1BKaqrOHXhA/edit


I merely just skimmed it and from what I saw, one, this person isn't some random kid putting together a heartfelt letter to send to Gringon to ask them to "Care again and stuff 'cause fusionfol is the best lol." Nope. We got Indentions, Bullets, Fully formed and cohesive thoughts and that alone impressed me.

Two, the person makes some good points about having the Barber Shop, PvP, and a new Weapon: The Gauntlet.

And Three. PvP man.

PvP. That is what happened to the Dinosaurs. And a Gauntlet. With Fried eggs and the power of a Thunderstorm all wrapped up inside 4 Powercells on each of your knuckles.

I mean c'mon. Its fun to punch things as big as a house to death in front of Level 4 players but just the mere fact of having something shiny and explosive to do it with is so much better.


Anyways, I was in a rare mood when I made this message so excuse my lunacy. Check out the PDF and tell me what you think.

Oh did I mention that this person didn't make a single mention about having "Pets?" Kudos to that guy because seriously If I heard another kid say that FusionFall should "so tootally have pets and houses because they r cool" I was seriously going to spam the URL to FreeRealms all over any account that I find of theirs...and their Face. If I find them.

(Wow. I really AM in a rare mood.....)

ikr you can see way big and ultimate big chill at the graduation place. Also, Sinister could have been lieing, not wanting to reveal his plans

maybe.

Oh btw guys, I haven't stopped supporting P:R. I will continue to develop and update the project until completion. However, don't expect really any updates or sort of community involvement from me unless the game updates, or I've finished the project in entirety. I'm not gone

I'm looking forward to the character modification feature you mentioned.

Btw Wilttilt, why don't you change your profile picture? You've been registered for quite some time.
If you need any help on changing your avatar, go to the quick start guide in the announcements section of the forum. (Above the new member introductions section)

Also, please check the PM I sent you. Thanks.

haha congrats ty aquazon. :O

Undelos wrote:

DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO CREATE THEIR OWN FUSIONFALL GAME!?

Now before you think that I'm asking if someone knows how to create one from scratch, I'm asking about all the World of Warcraft-like servers out there like Molten for example.

It is suposed to be like WoW but it is free to play. If I remeber correctly, Wilt said it was a "Client' version or something.

I honestly havent gotten that far in my classes so I wouldn't know myself.
But does anyone else? This is the one game that needs one before they pull a LEGO Universe on it.

All I know is that it took a few years.

There is a freeware version of the Unity game engine.
I've used it to create the games you see on the games page of
Xtreme FusionFall. (The website, not the forum obviously.)
If you mess around long enough, you can make pretty decent games.
As for online capabilities; it can be done but it may require advanced coding or at least
a ready made multiplayer package. Unity have example projects on their website.
I haven't touched Unity for like 2-4 years so I probably already forgot most aspects.
I don't have the patience. I mean, what's the best I could create?
A car game? With simple physics? It's not worth my time.
FusionFall must have taken a very long time to make.
If they had more people (preferably extreme professionals)
then they could make a similar game in about a few months rather years. But I respect them for the work they've done.
This MMO is unlike any other.

XLR8 147 wrote:

There is a freeware version of the Unity game engine.
I've used it to create the games you see on the games page of
Xtreme FusionFall. (The website, not the forum obviously.)
If you mess around long enough, you can make pretty decent games.
As for online capabilities; it can be done but it may require advanced coding or at least
a ready made multiplayer package. Unity have example projects on their website.
I haven't touched Unity for like 2-4 years so I probably already forgot most aspects.
I don't have the patience. I mean, what's the best I could create?
A car game? With simple physics? It's not worth my time.
FusionFall must have taken a very long time to make.
If they had more people (preferably extreme professionals)
then they could make a similar game in about a few months rather years. But I respect them for the work they've done.
This MMO is unlike any other.

Lol, they had an experienced Korean team of developers and artists to create FusionFall.

Wilttilt wrote:

XLR8 147 wrote:

There is a freeware version of the Unity game engine.
I've used it to create the games you see on the games page of
Xtreme FusionFall. (The website, not the forum obviously.)
If you mess around long enough, you can make pretty decent games.
As for online capabilities; it can be done but it may require advanced coding or at least
a ready made multiplayer package. Unity have example projects on their website.
I haven't touched Unity for like 2-4 years so I probably already forgot most aspects.
I don't have the patience. I mean, what's the best I could create?
A car game? With simple physics? It's not worth my time.
FusionFall must have taken a very long time to make.
If they had more people (preferably extreme professionals)
then they could make a similar game in about a few months rather years. But I respect them for the work they've done.
This MMO is unlike any other.

Lol, they had an experienced Korean team of developers and artists to create FusionFall.

Korean? I knew that guy who did the character art was Asian, but not Korean. Interesting... Nice avatar, too. Fusion TOM!

Also, when the game started, the game was with Grigon. But they left CN to do the work for some reason. Which is why the expansion took a few years. It's also the reason you don't see the Grigon logo on the FF site or while loading the game anymore.

I know it's still on that logon screen that sometimes pop up after the Black dexlabs Loading screen finishes.

AMIGAWD!!! WOOW! You're no longer a random black box Ty!!!!

You're officially a user now!
*snifff*
they grow up so fast..........

Well I'm missing some factors including the fact that Unity wasn't always used, the
company switch, etc.
I don't know all the facts.
Still. The game took a while to make.
But it was a genius concept.
The aesthetics are great. What I mean is, the atmosphere; yeah so the graphics aren't really
Crysis looking but heck they're still pretty good and just all the effects, FOV, (field of view)
character design, texture clarity, etc. FusionFall is an epic MMO.

I wonder if they still have the old version of FusionFall lying around somewhere... (non Unity version.)
If they released that, us FusionFallers would be more patient in waiting for an update since a lot of things
were different then. It's like a totally different game.

I know they were professionals but ...I don't know...maybe Grigon isn't as fast as we thought.
I'm thinking of the makers of Gears Of War and stuff...so...I know it's an unfair comparison but...never mind.
I think GOW had around 300 workers and I suspect FusionFall had something near 30 or probably less.
Just my guess.

Undelos wrote:

AMIGAWD!!! WOOW! You're no longer a random black box Ty!!!!

You're officially a user now!
*snifff*
they grow up so fast..........

This is why I say you're probably the funniest here.

You know what I find funny. Fusion Fall is supposed to be the CN universe yet CN has given up on it.
Ty have you ever thought about posting Project R on the CN forums?

I know about FF's history so much it's like I've been playing longer than that FusionFaller guy!

What I also know about the old 2008 version of the game is that it had a much cooler inventory screen, a BIG NanoCom etc...

Also, ya remember that 'Go to Time Machine' button you had when you got to lvl 4 in the Future if you were an Unlimited Subscriber or when the game became free was first moved during the beta.

There's also that time I got lost in Fusion Blossom's lair during the sneak peek... That was in late December 2008 and I still remember that!

I'm also surprised at how much comments were on both my 'FusionFall characters' vids on my old channel...

Oliver Zombieweasel wrote:

I'm also surprised at how much comments were on both my 'FusionFall characters' vids on my old channel...

What's your old channel?

XLR8 147 wrote:

Oliver Zombieweasel wrote:

I'm also surprised at how much comments were on both my 'FusionFall characters' vids on my old channel...

What's your old channel?

Ever heard of a channel called 'FusionFall39'...?

Oliver Zombieweasel wrote:

XLR8 147 wrote:

Oliver Zombieweasel wrote:

I'm also surprised at how much comments were on both my 'FusionFall characters' vids on my old channel...

What's your old channel?

Ever heard of a channel called 'FusionFall39'...?

OH I REMEMBER HIM THAT CHANNEL.
Oh yeah....off topic.... ....
Sorry.

FusionFall was originally developed by Grigon (the Korean team) on the Gamebryo engine. One video still exists of Gamebryo FusionFall:

However, they opted for Unity, because of its faster download rate, and the ability to stream assets.

Everything was smooth sailing until Grigon went bankrupt, and handed the game over to Cartoon Network, who, at the time, didn't have any experience in larger scale games.This was around roughly December of 2009 or January of 2010. Before they handed the game over, there WAS an expansion planned with more levels, glove weapons, a barber vendor, player stores, new areas, and a couple new features. They had already created all this, except for areas, about half complete. They also made new NPCs for these new areas.

When CN got the game, Grigon had already made those new NPCs, and some Anniversary elements, that they decided to push out for the Birthday Bash, complete or not. This is what I like to call the downfall. As evidenced clearly by the lack of complete NPCs, some without voices, some without animations altogether, you can see just what was complete, half complete, etc. Since that time, CN decided to take a new route using some of the Grigon made things, and simply add onto the world.

Shame Grigon went. Had they stayed, we most likely would have had a real expansion, yet another DLU, and plenty of other, balanced content. It's even possible to tell what new content is CN made. The texture style on Lance for instance, is much different than Ben. Same goes for items.

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THIS. EXPLAINS. EVERYTHING.


Oi Angel boy! Come and make this a sticky in Announcements.

Undelos wrote:

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THIS. EXPLAINS. EVERYTHING.


Oi Angel boy! Come and make this a sticky in Announcements.

I could go WAY more in depth with the explanation if you like That only grazes the surface of the history of FusionFall.

YEAH THEY TAKE FOCUS OF FF AND MORE FOCUS ON PROJECT EXONUT thats a rubbish 2d game they build with their honour and at the end there faces go like because they haven't been paying attention to FF and more on PE

Wilttilt wrote:

Undelos wrote:

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THIS. EXPLAINS. EVERYTHING.


Oi Angel boy! Come and make this a sticky in Announcements.

I could go WAY more in depth with the explanation if you like That only grazes the surface of the history of FusionFall.

Now I've found someone who knows more about FF's past than me!

Undelos wrote:

well yeah venom, most FusionFall users do have a newfound hatred for the new games they put out but from the way Wilt just described, It seems like they only made a Project Exonaut is because they dont know how to manage and create things for fusionfall. Its massive and takes alot of time to manage. It also takes a knowledge of knowing how to do advanced game creating and management, something that they lack obviously.

Their only fault is that they dont seem to be trying to find another development company to take over FusionFall, learn the game script, and take over management and development.

I think it makes sense, money-wise, for them to just go with their in-house developers and teams and just have them learn. To my knowledge, the FusionFall adventures and such were more or less practice in the eyes of Sinister's team.

The way I see it, FusionFall is nowhere near as famous as it should be.
If it received more publicity (Adverts? International servers? Expensive perhaps but this is CN)
then they would have no problem finding a development team.
Unfortunately, since they fired Devs and Mods, it's clear that there are some economical issues.
I think they know what they're doing.

They know all the facts, figures and factors.
But it is clear that if they had enough publicity, EVERYTHING could change.
I hate to say it but I think the FusionFall active player-base has dropped to extremely
low depths in comparison with its former fame back in 2009. The game was really booming back then.

You American people, can you tell me if CN show FF adverts anymore?
In Britain, FF is unknown generally. We have a different CN broadcasting team too.
I also don't have the channel CN currently either...

Lol, they didn't fire any developers, in fact, the only people they got rid of were the forum moderators and GMs, which were all offered different jobs at CN.

The thing with publicity, comes the fact that it's a 4 year old game now. If they had the startup, they could do it, but I'm confident they don't want to spend a resounding amount of money and resources on what they *know is a winner.

XLR8 147 wrote:

The way I see it, FusionFall is nowhere near as famous as it should be.
If it received more publicity (Adverts? International servers? Expensive perhaps but this is CN)
then they would have no problem finding a development team.
Unfortunately, since they fired Devs and Mods, it's clear that there are some economical issues.
I think they know what they're doing.

They know all the facts, figures and factors.
But it is clear that if they had enough publicity, EVERYTHING could change.
I hate to say it but I think the FusionFall active player-base has dropped to extremely
low depths in comparison with its former fame back in 2009. The game was really booming back then.

You American people, can you tell me if CN show FF adverts anymore?
In Britain, FF is unknown generally. We have a different CN broadcasting team too.
I also don't have the channel CN currently either...

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no there aren't anymore ads for FF on CN

In that case, I'm guessing they don't show FF adverts anymore?
I've still got this thing in my mind that if CN viewers saw the previous
adverts (yes, to rerun rather than making new commercials)
then perhaps a lot of my old Future friends could come back so I could contact them.
It was only by luck that Hom Choi found this forum through YouTube. (That was seriously
one of the weirdest days.... I mean...that long lost legend just showed up here like a Godsend. )
Anyway... yeah, let them finish up their other games.
One day when everyone has optic fibre broadband and download speeds are astronomical....
FusionFall will appeal to even the youngest of audiences and boost its popularity.
I'm talking like I'm selling something.

Wilttilt wrote:

Undelos wrote:

well yeah venom, most FusionFall users do have a newfound hatred for the new games they put out but from the way Wilt just described, It seems like they only made a Project Exonaut is because they dont know how to manage and create things for fusionfall. Its massive and takes alot of time to manage. It also takes a knowledge of knowing how to do advanced game creating and management, something that they lack obviously.

Their only fault is that they dont seem to be trying to find another development company to take over FusionFall, learn the game script, and take over management and development.

I think it makes sense, money-wise, for them to just go with their in-house developers and teams and just have them learn. To my knowledge, the FusionFall adventures and such were more or less practice in the eyes of Sinister's team.

I quite like the FusionFall Adventures. They're kinda fun. And to me, they're also pretty much practice like Sinister and his team said, but for me, it's practice for both the team and the players, if you get my meaning.

EDIT: X, I think everyone would have optic-fibre broadband in 50 years or something... That's my estimate.

Something tells me my new internet show might bring SOME publicity to the game. I'm not expecting a lot, but some. When the pilot's finished at least. I'm thinking of releasing my pilot episode before the rest of the show like normal cartoons...

Rex Undelos, you are my hero!

Undelos wrote:

They should atleast let us know what's going on simply by saying something along the lines that "we no longer have an adequate team to oversee FusionFall but we will do what we can with our own manpower.

Thanks for being patient with us."

It honestly wont take that much out of them to post a news feed like that. it's not too revealing but it satisfies almost everyone's need to kow why they seemed to abandon the game.

No blasphemy intended but....


That was hidden in my subconscious. I didn't know it but I recognised it.
Yep, the web team could do wonders to satisfy us for a while.
Genius.

............


I.....um. I guess......uh.............it was a good Idea. Buuuuuuut....

I was stating only what I thought everyone was thinking. Wasn't expecting this to be so revolutionary.....
I mean this is only basic common sense. Dont get why CN hasn't thought of it.

X nice new avatar

Officer Second wrote:

X nice new avatar

Thanks, I was getting bored of the old one after 1k posts.

haha.. epic avatar xlr8

I see Undelos made a new 1 too

haha undelos made a long time ago.

Undelos wrote:

Dont get why CN hasn't thought of it.

Me neither but maybe they have but can't do anything about it due to economical issues.

maybe..

XLR8 147 wrote:

Undelos wrote:

Dont get why CN hasn't thought of it.

Me neither but maybe they have but can't do anything about it due to economical issues.

Hah how could they have economical issues if they continue with new series and new small games .... they need money to create them... they aren't made for free of course..

dannytheboi wrote:

XLR8 147 wrote:

Undelos wrote:

Dont get why CN hasn't thought of it.

Me neither but maybe they have but can't do anything about it due to economical issues.

Hah how could they have economical issues if they continue with new series and new small games .... they need money to create them... they aren't made for free of course..

Dude, Cartoon Network pay the animators, not the other way round.

Oliver Zombieweasel wrote:

dannytheboi wrote:

XLR8 147 wrote:

Undelos wrote:

Dont get why CN hasn't thought of it.

Me neither but maybe they have but can't do anything about it due to economical issues.

Hah how could they have economical issues if they continue with new series and new small games .... they need money to create them... they aren't made for free of course..

Dude, Cartoon Network pay the animators, not the other way round.

Ehh did read carefully please... I said they need money to create them.... I didn't say about specific things so it can mean both

haha

Officer Second wrote:

I see Undelos made a new 1 too

Yeah. I couldnt help myself. I couldn't let him steal all the glory.

I know. I'm pretty sad....
*goes to sit in shame corner....of shame*

Undelos wrote:

Officer Second wrote:

I see Undelos made a new 1 too

Yeah. I couldnt help myself. I couldn't let him steal all the glory.

I know. I'm pretty sad....
*goes to sit in shame corner....of shame*

Yeah, Rajeta looks kinda creepy. Kinda.