| So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! | |
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Jom3es12
FusionFall Name : Trigger the Wurst Level : 17 Posts : 22 Join date : 2013-08-22 Age : 25 FF Location : Debug Land
| Subject: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:57 am | |
| I loved playing FusionFall. I played it since it came out. Even though i would get bored and quit. I would keep playing the game. Then one day, after not playing on anything cartoon network related in about a year. I came back. I came back to see that long lost beauty that i once so dearly loved. But alas! I was to late. She died. I started feeI finally realized that the FF i came to know and love was know more. I felt like a wonderful part of my childhood was missing. I felt mixed emotions. Regret. . Anger . A feeling like i was clicking something wrong. I blamed myself for not playing. I looked through my history without any luck. Hoping that i could find something. I even playing fusionfall hero's I thought that I should contact . I guess what I am trying to say is, FFF FUSIONFALL FOREVER! #FFF #FusionFall #Fusion #Fall #hashtag.I now want answers. SO i am making a list of questions
- Why did they shut down fusionfall. I do understand that they fired Grigon(I think)
- Are there any attempts to revive it by CN.
- Is CN bankrupt or something because there cartoons are ## now.
- Should I just accept the fact that the community, the game, and my love are gone forever?
Sincerely Jom3es12 P.S. Emotes for life. P.P.S To any haters(doubtful that there would be any but i wanted to post a Doctor Who meme) Ain't no sunshine when she's gone It's not warm when she's away. Ain't no sunshine when she's gone And she's always gone too long Anytime she goes away. Wonder this time where she's gone Wonder if she's gone to stay Ain't no sunshine when she's gone And this house just ain't no home Anytime she goes away. |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:20 pm | |
| Hey, you're kinda new so welcome to the forum anyway! I like Doctor Who. Anyway, I think Grigon became bankrupt. (Don't know why.) There doesn't seem to be any effort from CN to bring FusionFall back. At least there's FF Heroes which doesn't compare but it's a shred of what was before. I don't think CartoonNetwork has explained at all why they stopped FusionFall. So we can only guess factors like: - Servers too expensive to maintain. (But isn't advertisement revenue enough?) - Not enough staff. (Really? They can't pay someone to do a weekly maintenance update?) - Licenses or copyrights or whatever expired. (....Seems unlikely....this is CN here lol.) - They don't care and wanted to kill off FF due to lower numbers of players. Well that's kinda their fault for not advertising it enough. I only heard about it because I went to the CN AMERICAN WEBSITE. And I'm not even from the U.S. so that goes to show how unlikely it was that I'd come across FF. I'm not sure how many Americans and Canadians have heard of it because obviously, I don't have the U.S./Canadian Cartoon Network channel. -Maybe complaints from parents? (Really unlikely....especially after this many years.) And I don't know what shows on CN these days but if it's live action and/or bad cartoons, then I dunno about bankruptcy but it would just seem like a bad direction from those that choose the shows. I think cartoons are more expensive than live action due to how long and how difficult it is to animate. But it's CartoonNetwork for a reason. |
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 28 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:58 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:31 pm | |
| - Jom3es12 wrote:
- Why did they shut down fusionfall. I do understand that they fired Grigon(I think)
- Are there any attempts to revive it by CN.
- Is CN bankrupt or something because there cartoons are ## now.
- Should I just accept the fact that the community, the game, and my love are gone forever?
1. They weren't making enough money. CN is a business. They don't cater to their audience, they are driven by financial gain. 2. No, they don't care. 3. http://www.adweek.com/news/television/analyst-netflix-deal-cannibalizing-cartoon-network-s-linear-tv-ratings-152393 4. Yes, games die all the time. Also, FusionFall's graphics and mechanics are outdated compared to today's games. - XLR8 147 wrote:
- They don't care and wanted to kill off FF due to lower numbers of players.
All the other reasons that were posted are unlikely/irrelevant. |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:11 pm | |
| - Hannah wrote:
- FusionFall's graphics and mechanics are outdated compared to today's games.
- XLR8 147 wrote:
- They don't care and wanted to kill off FF due to lower numbers of players.
All the other reasons that were posted are unlikely/irrelevant. As stated in the original post. Couldn't think of any other plausible explanations. Of course, we don't have all the information so there's that too; they're just guesses from observations and not really any data like playing figures. FusionFall's mechanics were a little unconventional but I didn't mind them and besides, the main target audience was about 10 years old so it kinda makes sense they put auto aim to make it easier for younger players. What do you mean by its mechanics being outdated? Perhaps I'm not familiar with the definition of game mechanics. I thought they were pretty alright. Even had races and extra stuff like that. Or do you mean it was relatively repetitive or involved getting stuff for lazy NPCs? We did all that for them. As for graphics, back in 2007/2008 they were pretty good and still are pretty good now. I mean, the texture resolutions are not that high and toon/cell shading is kinda cheating and don't really translate well as 'good graphics' but aesthetically, the game looks fantastic even today. (Though I must stress that the game looked better with Toon Shading 'OFF' in my personal opinion.) Texture resolution and model poly count aren't everything; it's quite possible to make a game look good despite disadvantages such as these. Perhaps it was the glow effects, particle effects, field of view or originality in its art work of player characters and such. Or maybe I'm blinded by nostalgia, I dunno. Haven't seen a proper screenshot of FF for quite a while. |
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 28 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:16 pm | |
| - XLR8 147 wrote:
- As for graphics, back in 2007/2008 they were pretty good and still are pretty good now.
I mean, the texture resolutions are not that high and toon/cell shading is kinda cheating and don't really translate well as 'good graphics' but aesthetically, the game looks fantastic even today. (Though I must stress that the game looked better with Toon Shading 'OFF' in my personal opinion.) Plus, work on the game started at around the mid-2000s, and Unity was still fairly new when FF was released. In my opinion, the graphics of a game reflect on when that game itself was actually being made. |
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Jom3es12
FusionFall Name : Trigger the Wurst Level : 17 Posts : 22 Join date : 2013-08-22 Age : 25 FF Location : Debug Land
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:33 pm | |
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 28 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:46 pm | |
| Jom, did we mention the filter. Game was made for kids, ya know. |
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Jom3es12
FusionFall Name : Trigger the Wurst Level : 17 Posts : 22 Join date : 2013-08-22 Age : 25 FF Location : Debug Land
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:15 pm | |
| - Oliver Zombieweasel wrote:
- Jom, did we mention the filter.
Oops. Sorry. What was the name of that big trading place. I forgot the name. I remember the words black and mountain. |
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Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:23 pm | |
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Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 28 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:54 pm | |
| I also liked the Toon Shading. The outline it had gave the game that small cartoon feel. |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:26 pm | |
| @Undelos, yeah toon shading did make editing easier with the cartoon outlines. (If they were thick enough and not too pixelated.)
I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of FF players are still not aware of FF's closure because if they were, probably we'd have more activity in the online FF community. Also, older players may be too busy studying/working to bother with FF or even remember. I think lots of people just forgot, really. @Oliver and @Undelos, toon shading better than normal 3D/Toon Shading 'OFF' ? When toon shading being turned OFF stopped working, it annoyed me quite a bit Ok so toon shading wasn't that bad but I remember being more fond of 3D. It had more depth and ironically...more shading. Comparison: (for more clarity, view full size)
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Toon Shading ON:Toon Shading OFF:
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 28 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:35 pm | |
| Yeah, I loved both. But I preferred it on. And looking at earlier FF images from late-2008 to 2009, the lines were a bit thicker. And of course, back in pre-Unity Beta, there was no known Toon Shading. |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:40 pm | |
| - Oliver Zombieweasel wrote:
- And looking at earlier FF images from late-2008 to 2009, the lines were a bit thicker.
Really? I don't think I noticed anything different with the toon shading. Maybe it was because I turned it off most of the time. Did toon shading improve or reduce performance? I tried doing tests but the difference was probably so small I couldn't tell. I just guessed it being OFF would be faster but I dunno. |
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 28 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:47 pm | |
| - XLR8 147 wrote:
- Oliver Zombieweasel wrote:
- And looking at earlier FF images from late-2008 to 2009, the lines were a bit thicker.
Really? I don't think I noticed anything different with the toon shading. Maybe it was because I turned it off most of the time. Did toon shading improve or reduce performance? I tried doing tests but the difference was probably so small I couldn't tell. I just guessed it being OFF would be faster but I dunno. - Spoiler:
It's more noticeable in one of the Game Guide's images, but I haven't got it. Could be on my USB, but I'm too lazy to check. But yeah, they were a LITTLE bit thicker. By about a pixel or two. |
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Gloryangel
FusionFall Name : Josie Gloryangel Level : 17 Posts : 2654 Join date : 2012-09-03 Age : 27 FF Location : ♫ ♪ where the party's at ♪ ♫
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:42 am | |
| Sadly nearly the same thing happened to me... I left ff because people were either harassing or just plan old not funny... But then one day i decided to go back, But it was closed... Not only was i sad that i was too late... But i was sad because it was the very afternoon of when it officially closed.That was rough. I never had any screenshots either Really, though, i was only there for the social aspect... So this and skype satisfy that pretty easily... But i do miss the anonymous atmosphere... Being whoever i wanted to be, and to have a cute character to match Hahahaha But really, it always felt exciting, like there was always something to do... i miss that |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:45 pm | |
| - Gloryangel wrote:
- I left ff because people were either harassing or just plan old not funny...
I never had any screenshots either Have you tried typing fusion fall or fusionfall into the search bar from the start button in Windows? You may have forgotten you took one at some point. You probably didn't record a video....but if you did, you could take a screenshot from the video. Some players were harassing? I know some of them were a nasty piece of work but I didn't think it was that bad. Should have just blocked them. |
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Gloryangel
FusionFall Name : Josie Gloryangel Level : 17 Posts : 2654 Join date : 2012-09-03 Age : 27 FF Location : ♫ ♪ where the party's at ♪ ♫
| Subject: Re: So. FusionFall. YOU BROKE MY HEART! Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:32 pm | |
| wEll not like real real harrassing... But just more annoying than they were before I hardly ever blocked anyone though... Because if they were doing anything i would like to know, just so the surrounding people wouldn't be seeing something that i couldn't, you know? Hahaha But generally i could deal with it fine Like i said i was there for the social aspect, so when my friends left or whatever, I really had no one, because no one else would give me the time of day, all the intelligent people were out doing things Plus no one would talk to me anymore And no no no, i'm positive i took no screenshots... Really, i just recently learned how to take them Plus i never thought of it... As Sean O'Connell would say in the Secret Life of Walter Mitty, Walter Mitty: When are you going to take it? Sean O'Connell: Sometimes I don't. If I like a moment, for me, personally, I don't like to have the distraction of the camera. I just want to stay in it. Walter Mitty: Stay in it? Sean O'Connell: Yeah. Right there. Right here. Man.. i just watched that movie last night... It made me so happy |
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