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I loved playing FusionFall. I played it since it came out. Even though i would get bored and quit. I would keep playing the game.

     Then one day, after not playing on anything cartoon network related in about a year. I came back. I came back to see that long lost beauty that i once so dearly loved.  Crying2  But alas! I was to late. She died. 

      I started feeI finally realized that the FF i came to know and love was know more. I felt like a wonderful part of my childhood was missing.
       I felt mixed emotions. Regret.  Frown . Anger  Rage  . A feeling like i was clicking something wrong.  Seriously  I blamed myself for not playing.  Misery 

       I looked through my history scratch  without any luck. Hoping that i could find something. I even playing fusionfall hero's ED Head Bang            I thought that I should contact  Morgan Freeman

I guess what I am trying to say is,  Rant FFF   FUSIONFALL FOREVER!

#FFF #FusionFall #Fusion #Fall #hashtag.


I now want answers. SO i am making a list of questions



  1. Why did they shut down fusionfall. I do understand that they fired Grigon(I think)
  2. Are there any attempts to revive it by CN.

  3. Is CN bankrupt or something because there cartoons are ## now.

  4. Should I just accept the fact that the community, the game, and my love are gone forever?







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Hey, you're kinda new so welcome to the forum anyway! Bloo Dance 
I like Doctor Who. ThumbUp 
Anyway, I think Grigon became bankrupt. (Don't know why.)
There doesn't seem to be any effort from CN to bring FusionFall back.
At least there's FF Heroes which doesn't compare but it's a shred
of what was before.  Nostalgia

I don't think CartoonNetwork has explained at all why they
stopped FusionFall. So we can only guess factors like:
- Servers too expensive to maintain. (But isn't advertisement revenue enough?)
- Not enough staff. (Really? They can't pay someone to do a weekly maintenance update?)
- Licenses or copyrights or whatever expired. (....Seems unlikely....this is CN here lol.)
- They don't care and wanted to kill off FF due to lower numbers of players.
Well that's kinda their fault for not advertising it enough.
I only heard about it because I went to the CN AMERICAN WEBSITE.
And I'm not even from the U.S. so that goes to show how unlikely it was
that I'd come across FF. I'm not sure how many Americans and Canadians
have heard of it because obviously, I don't have the U.S./Canadian Cartoon Network channel.
-Maybe complaints from parents? (Really unlikely....especially after this many years.)

And I don't know what shows on CN these days but if it's live action
and/or bad cartoons, then I dunno about bankruptcy but it would just seem
like a bad direction from those that choose the shows.
I think cartoons are more expensive than live action due to how
long and how difficult it is to animate. But it's CartoonNetwork for a reason.
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Jom3es12 wrote:
#FFF #FusionFall #Fusion #Fall #hashtag.

So. FusionFall.  YOU BROKE MY HEART! Giphy

 Too Funny But yeah, FF's closing hurt us all... Misery Still, welcome to the forum anyway. Happy2 And yeah, Grigon went bankrupt. Probably would've survived a little longer if they'd had just given the rest of the world access to Unlimited Access. Jelous 
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Jom3es12 wrote:


  1. Why did they shut down fusionfall. I do understand that they fired Grigon(I think)
  2. Are there any attempts to revive it by CN.

  3. Is CN bankrupt or something because there cartoons are ## now.

  4. Should I just accept the fact that the community, the game, and my love are gone forever?



1. They weren't making enough money. CN is a business. They don't cater to their audience, they are driven by financial gain.
2. No, they don't care.
3. http://www.adweek.com/news/television/analyst-netflix-deal-cannibalizing-cartoon-network-s-linear-tv-ratings-152393
4. Yes, games die all the time. Also, FusionFall's graphics and mechanics are outdated compared to today's games.

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- They don't care and wanted to kill off FF due to lower numbers of players.

All the other reasons that were posted are unlikely/irrelevant.
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Hannah wrote:
FusionFall's graphics and mechanics are outdated compared to today's games.

XLR8 147 wrote:

- They don't care and wanted to kill off FF due to lower numbers of players.

All the other reasons that were posted are unlikely/irrelevant.
As stated in the original post. Razz
Couldn't think of any other plausible explanations. Of course, we don't have all the information
so there's that too; they're just guesses from observations and not really any data like playing figures.

FusionFall's mechanics were a little unconventional but I didn't mind them
and besides, the main target audience was about 10 years old so it kinda
makes sense they put auto aim to make it easier for younger players.

What do you mean by its mechanics being outdated?  scratch 
Perhaps I'm not familiar with the definition of game mechanics.
I thought they were pretty alright.  Shrug Even had races and extra stuff like that.
Or do you mean it was relatively repetitive or involved getting stuff for
lazy NPCs?   Troll Face We did all that for them. LIES 

As for graphics, back in 2007/2008 they were pretty good and still are pretty good now.
I mean, the texture resolutions are not that high and toon/cell shading
is kinda cheating and don't really translate well as 'good graphics'
but aesthetically, the game looks fantastic even today. (Though I must stress that the
game looked better with Toon Shading 'OFF' in my personal opinion.)

Texture resolution and model poly count aren't everything; it's quite possible
to make a game look good despite disadvantages such as these.
Perhaps it was the glow effects, particle effects, field of view or
originality in its art work of player characters and such.
Or maybe I'm blinded by nostalgia, I dunno. No Idea
Haven't seen a proper screenshot of FF for quite a while.   Impressed
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XLR8 147 wrote:
As for graphics, back in 2007/2008 they were pretty good and still are pretty good now.
I mean, the texture resolutions are not that high and toon/cell shading
is kinda cheating and don't really translate well as 'good graphics'
but aesthetically, the game looks fantastic even today. (Though I must stress that the
game looked better with Toon Shading 'OFF' in my personal opinion.)

Plus, work on the game started at around the mid-2000s, and Unity was still fairly new when FF was released. In my opinion, the graphics of a game reflect on when that game itself was actually being made.
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Haven't seen a proper screenshot of FF for quite a while.   Impressed
     Here is a picture of a dog freezing in the cold.

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Jom, did we mention the filter. Game was made for kids, ya know. Yeah Right 
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Jom, did we mention the filter. 
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You know, its hard to believe that there are still those that dont know that it has closed.  Neutral 

Would've figured the entire community would have known this by now.


Me personally, I loved THE DEATH out of the Cell Shading/Toon Shading.

That was just GLORIOUS. I love how it simplified all the colors. I just LOVE bold & bright colors. It also made it easier to cut out images in Ps too.

Comparing FusionFall's Gameplay Graphics with W101, I can see another reason why I prefer it over W101. The models look like they took more effort and care to make in FusionFall. I think after that, I really look down upon games that dont have the fingers on the hands animated as their own moving parts. To me, it shows that "Hey, you know what? I really dont want to just mush this texture map together to call it a hand. I'm just gonna go the extra mile and make it the way its supposed to look."

I mean, jeez. I could sing praise about Gringon's job all day. Happy2 
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I also liked the Toon Shading. The outline it had gave the game that small cartoon feel. Happy2 
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@Undelos, yeah toon shading did make editing easier with the cartoon
outlines. Yep (If they were thick enough and not too pixelated.)


I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of FF players are still not aware of FF's closure
because if they were, probably we'd have more activity in the online FF community.
Also, older players may be too busy studying/working to bother with FF
or even remember. I think lots of people just forgot, really.

@Oliver and @Undelos, toon shading better than normal 3D/Toon Shading 'OFF' ?
When toon shading being turned OFF stopped working, it annoyed me quite a bit
Ok so toon shading wasn't that bad but I remember being more fond of 3D.
It had more depth and ironically...more shading. Laughing


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Yeah, I loved both. But I preferred it on. And looking at earlier FF images from late-2008 to 2009, the lines were a bit thicker. And of course, back in pre-Unity Beta, there was no known Toon Shading.
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Oliver Zombieweasel wrote:
And looking at earlier FF images from late-2008 to 2009, the lines were a bit thicker.
Really? I don't think I noticed anything different with the toon shading. Shrug
Maybe it was because I turned it off most of the time.
Did toon shading improve or reduce performance? I tried doing tests
but the difference was probably so small I couldn't tell.
I just guessed it being OFF would be faster but I dunno.
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Oliver Zombieweasel wrote:
And looking at earlier FF images from late-2008 to 2009, the lines were a bit thicker.
Really? I don't think I noticed anything different with the toon shading. Shrug
Maybe it was because I turned it off most of the time.
Did toon shading improve or reduce performance? I tried doing tests
but the difference was probably so small I couldn't tell.
I just guessed it being OFF would be faster but I dunno.

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It's more noticeable in one of the Game Guide's images, but I haven't got it. Sad Could be on my USB, but I'm too lazy to check. No Idea

But yeah, they were a LITTLE bit thicker. By about a pixel or two.
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Sadly nearly the same thing happened to me...

I left ff because people were either harassing or just plan old not funny...

But then one day i decided to go back,
But it was closed...

Not only was i sad that i was too late...
But i was sad because it was the very afternoon of when it officially closed.
That was rough.


I never had any screenshots either  Misery 

Really, though, i was only there for the social aspect...
So this and skype satisfy that pretty easily...

But i do miss the anonymous atmosphere...
Being whoever i wanted to be, and to have a cute character to match  EyeBrows 

Hahahaha

But really, it always felt exciting, like there was always something to do... i miss that  Crying or Very sad
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I left ff because people were either harassing or just plan old not funny...


I never had any screenshots either  Misery
Have you tried typing fusion fall or fusionfall into the search bar
from the start button in Windows? You may have forgotten you took one at some point.
You probably didn't record a video....but if you did, you could take a screenshot from the video. Razz

Some players were harassing? I know some of them were a nasty piece of work
but I didn't think it was that bad. Lolwut
Should have just blocked them.
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wEll not like real real harrassing...
But just more annoying than they were before  No Idea 
I hardly ever blocked anyone though...
Because if they were doing anything i would like to know, just so the surrounding people wouldn't be seeing something that i couldn't, you know? Hahaha
But generally i could deal with it fine

Like i said i was there for the social aspect, so when my friends left or whatever,
I really had no one, because no one else would give me the time of day, all the intelligent people were out doing things  No Idea 
Plus no one would talk to me anymore  Misery 




And no no no, i'm positive i took no screenshots...
Really, i just recently learned how to take them  Seriously 


Plus i never thought of it...
As Sean O'Connell would say in the Secret Life of Walter Mitty,

Walter Mitty: When are you going to take it?
Sean O'Connell: Sometimes I don't. If I like a moment, for me, personally, I don't like to have the distraction of the camera. I just want to stay in it.
Walter Mitty: Stay in it?
Sean O'Connell: Yeah. Right there. Right here.


Man.. i just watched that movie last night...
It made me so happy  Cute
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