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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Art Dumpster.Ment Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:17 am | |
| I've been over at FFL, saw X was here so I thought I'd let you guys see what I've been up to - artzy:
- meh:
I am the bone of my pencil paper is my body and ink is my blood I have practiced over a thousand styles Unknown to Blank, Nor known to Colorful Have withstood pain to create many drawings Yet, those hands will never sell anything So as I pray, unlimited drawing works.
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:20 am | |
| also what I really was happy about making was this. https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/224150-squid-now |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:55 am | |
| MIND. BLOWN. First one: definitely has a witch aspect to it. (Thought I was going to be wrong but the URL says witchress ) The complex ribbons, creases, THAT SHADOW, the zip and other details...amazing. The atmosphere this drawing gives is astounding and (dark and nostalgic-ish, not sure why) against the black (spoiler) background. And cool colour scheme, it goes well. Second one: Very impressed with the shadows, highlights and the complex skirt-like aspect of the dress. And the X design is pretty cool....I've never seen that kinda design before but I'm not into fashion so what do I know lol. (What I mean is....it looks pretty original to me, not just a generic dress.) Also, the hair's complexity is awesome. You can see quite a lot of groups of hair strands. Third one: Again shadows. And the blur between the background and foreground gives depth. It's like it jumped out of a manga book and into an anime. I can totally see a TV show here. "Previously on..... " And man...the paintbrush effect....I must know.... HOW!?? Fourth one: original looking manga character and she easily could fit into an anime. (Particularly one of those with a school theme.) Fifth: UNBELIEVABLE.I was seriously questioning whether these were yours and didn't want to make any compliments until i was sure you drew these (rather than me misread that someone else drew it or something). Grumpy....this fifth drawing is INSANE. It looks really professional. The face, hair, body proportions, etc. are flawless. And what makes this quite original is that thing on her arm, the dress and actually, the hair too. Did I mention I like the hair? And something about the eyes/eyebrows also makes this UNlike any other generic anime character I've seen. Sixth: that's a cool red, grey and black design on the dress. Gifs....YOU MADE GIFS?? They look awesome! I'm not going to even ask how you made the realistic "hair moving in the wind" animation. Grumpy you pro. I hate you. Just kidding. Just. Hmmm....I don't usually make these kinda analytical posts but it's been a long time probably that's why. But man I'm very impressed with all of them. Wow that 5th one. Yes I jelly. My favourites are 1, 2, 3, 5. Although the rest including the GIFs are cool too. Drawing 5 has some aspects of perfection.
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 27 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:03 am | |
| (In case you had any doubt that was X when he came back.) |
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:30 am | |
| lol thanks, yeah a lot of people really liked the 5th one got a lot of feedback.
2 and 3 are characters from League of Legends. and 6 was made for a youtuber I subscribed to who wanted a new banner. |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:45 am | |
| And who is 1 and 5? And the poetic thing you wrote... One day, your drawing hands will be money makers, ma boy. One day. (Hopefully.) But also consider a backup not involved in the arts, e.g. science. |
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Gloryangel
FusionFall Name : Josie Gloryangel Level : 17 Posts : 2654 Join date : 2012-09-03 Age : 27 FF Location : ♫ ♪ where the party's at ♪ ♫
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:47 pm | |
| DAY-UNG Marcie!!!! These are super great... like super super super great!!!! Like... The actual best ever kind of great! So here's a question i haven't thought of asking... so now that you're like.... incredibly good.... what are you going to do? I mean, besides keep drawing... But are you going to like... go into animation? or maybe do the art in Mangas or something? Or maybe just do like a web comic? Or are you going to just keep doing this and working on your t-shirts? You are obviously extremely good at it... So i'm just wondering what you're going to do now |
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:43 am | |
| - Gloryangel wrote:
But are you going to like... go into animation? or maybe do the art in Mangas or something? Or maybe just do like a web comic?
Or are you going to just keep doing this and working on your t-shirts?
You are obviously extremely good at it... So i'm just wondering what you're going to do now Well my brother and me both want to do animation, we're saving up for a drawing tablet, doing everything through a scanner gets annoying and would just take too much time to animate. I wanted to do a web comic ever since I joined deviantart, but again linearting a scan of a comic I hand draw takes forever, so the drawing tablet is really something I want. The shirts, well randomly upload one every few days. No one bought a single shirt yet. https://www.teepublic.com/user/Grumpysheep I haven't really tried that hard in making the shirts though. So far I have $20 from commissions people payed me in my paypal. https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/224150-squid-now I think that's the only shirt I actually think looks like a shirt I would wear. |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:34 pm | |
| Hey Grumpy, have you thought about making T-shirts that involve FF themes? Or will there be legal trouble? (Ask Undelos, maybe she knows about this stuff). Although maybe it's possible to make one with a certain design and then a "your FF face here" thing...just an idea. Dunno bro. And my graphics tablet...Huion H610 I think, I don't know how it compares to the likes of Wacom tablets but I wouldn't say it's perfect. Could just be my inexperience or bad settings or plainly that it's not that good compared to more expensive tablets. I don't know. But my complaints about my own tablet are that: (haven't used it for a while though) -Sometimes drivers glitches occur (i.e. right clicking constantly with the pen :/ and erratic drawing behaviour) Maybe depends on what software I'm on. It doesn't seem to happen on Paint but does in PS and Gimp I think. -There's something about it....like it's still difficult to move with it accurately.... Like in video games on PC where the settings are put all the way up and there's input lag making it feel "motioney" compared to on low settings where it's like playing counter strike on low on a high end machine. Very low input lag. Not lag like jittery....lag like slowish...sluggish.... heavy motion....don't know how to describe it. Perhaps it's the sensitivity... -Also, it takes me ages to draw with it. For a science project I drew with it and took too long so half way I drew with my whiteboard, took a photo and edited in Gimp. Lol. All I'm saying is, try before you buy if possible. (I couldn't.) And compare with others if you can. But anyway someone of your caliber will probably be fine, probably. I don't know how much skill can conquer the flaws of equipment. Have you tried second hand graphics tablets of older models? Or is the shipping so pointlessly high you might as well buy new? I dunno. Just trying to help, grumpz. |
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:39 pm | |
| @Xlr8
Yeah I could sell FF shirts, as long as I draw the thing myself. The thing is I can't imagine anyone on the sites actually wanting to buy a ff shirt from me. I don't think I can make a thread about it on the forum either, no advertising or something. I would have to put the shirts up and telling them without posting a link there. Idk if that's the word I'm looking for. They're all mostly people who played FF when it became free to play I think, then again I'm pretty sure they wouldnt buy something I made in my style.
and oh yeah I know about that stuff X. Thanks for letting me know though. I'm planning on using it in Paint tool Sai like everyone else. I wanted to try getting Flash too. |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:10 pm | |
| Bro...about the no commercial use advertising rule.... I'm a logical admin, I make exceptions when appropriate. Undelos had her T-shirt thread. We'll just say this is another exception. Alternatively we can say... Undelos never bombarded us with "BUY NOW" and stuff like that... she just posted a link to one of her DeviantArt pages which probably had a link or something to buy her T-shirts. And she made a discussion about it too. If it helps you, it's cool bro. Don't make it straight up advertisement but talk about your work with a link and it's all good. As for the thing about none of us buying something in your style... At the moment there are very few members online (thus low chance of a sale) but in due time (maybe when FF Legacy launches or something) more people online = increased chance of interest/sales/spreading the word. Here's a few ideas to get you more confident with what styles people are more likely to buy: -As I said, a cool design (maybe with FF elements like fusion spawns, I dunno) with something that allows for the "insert your FF character face here" (which might avoid copyright stuff if that's a problem I don't know, I thought maybe if the buyer supplied the character's face, that you wouldn't get in trouble? Don't know bro.) And you can draw people's FF characters instead if that's safer. -Alright so we know that some people are embarrassed to wear a FusionFall T-shirt in real life. But the thing is, not everyone is. (Especially comic con fans.) PLUS, probably fewer people know/remember what FF is now that it's gone so that embarrassment worry is probably less likely now. And besides, a clever way to avoid any embarrassment at all is to make it so that someone (who has never heard of FF) looks at it and thinks "WHOA that's cool man!! Where'd you buy that??" because that implies ambiguity. Is that an FF T-shirt?? It might be. That can easily increase how many people would be interested. FF fans and non-FF fans. I dunno, by using silhouettes of FF elements or masking some fusions with gas masks or casual clothes. Whatever makes it look more original and less franchise-based. Hope that helps. You and Undelos know more about the T-shirt copyright thing than me so ignore anything I say that may get you in trouble. BTW, I know that sooo many T-shirt designs these days are GARBAGE. Kinda suggests these graphics designers are not so creative. But I guess that makes it easy to standout. |
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 27 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:16 pm | |
| How X has the attention span to make such posts, I have no idea. |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:42 pm | |
| Ok I was just making an example of the kinda thing you could make but Gimp just froze.... So I had to take a screenshot with Snipping Tool: (even Print Screen didn't work correctly) I know I wasn't that obscure with the Fusion Spawn but sue me. Cartoon Network: Sure thing. |
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:43 am | |
| lol to be fair , people everywhere are making money from either selling shirts of things like some nintendo related shirts and they're allowed to since they drew the design.
others being commissioned to draw sonic or link for them.
people playing lets plays.
Selling clay versions of things or other art related things. Like people who make league of legends plushes.
So that's not the thing. Idk maybe I'll make one for each nano. |
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:45 am | |
| https://www.teepublic.com/
see look at all the shirts that made it to front page. |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:51 pm | |
| Well Grumpy, if you're confident it's cool with the copyright stuff, go for it man. You have our support. I'm sure you will make designs that will become wildly popular. I think it would be a good idea to just spam loads of good T-shirt designs until it gets someone's interest. (Not spam as in spam....spam as in...keep new designs coming.) Because you know, not everyone will want an obscure anime character on a T-shirt, or anime at all. Not everyone will want an FF related shirt. But I'm sure you'll hit all the right notes. You have done so since your art started here on Xtreme. Maybe even on your first attempt outside of the anime world. I'm hoping how it works is that you display your digital designs, someone orders it, the site takes care of the rest with a reasonable commission. If so, then it's a good idea to make lots of designs periodically if you're motivated enough. I hope you do well bro. But one thing I notice with a lot of bad T-shirt designs is that the design hardly fills the shirt. So to conclude....don't make designs that are so small on the shirt. But what do I know? |
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
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FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:27 pm | |
| Finally got a drawing tablet, and boy did I put it to work. - Spoiler:
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 27 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:29 pm | |
| The livestock in a bad mood returns! |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:55 am | |
| In the spoiler, 6th picture down.... Oh my.... But all of them look digitally professional and awesome. :O The second pic (not in the spoiler) looks like it easily came out of an anime! It looks that good. You can imagine it animated. EDIT: Oli....you evil genius. I see what you did there. Livestock in a bad mood..... |
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 27 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:01 am | |
| *Bows* |
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Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 32 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:30 am | |
| Not gonna lie..........that tablet really put the extra "AWE!" in awesome.
the chibi Kitsune girl is pretty much perfect. I would not make that any better. In fact, I wouldnt have been able to tell if that was your artwork if it was shown to me without a known owner.
I hope they have conventions where you live at? or Arcade places that sell gamer artwork?
You have officially reached "Killin'-them-in-the-wallet" Mode. *sniff* I'm so proud of you...
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:37 pm | |
| @Undelos, which Grumpy drawing are you referring to? (I don't know who/what Chibi Kitsune is.) |
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:34 pm | |
| tried some new tutorials, but it didn't come out the way it was suppose to lol |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:00 pm | |
| Grumpy....how long did it take to make that??? That's an insane new style bro! The shadows and the slightly foggy effect are really nice. The lines and shadows really make an awesome 3D effect. It's an awesome style, Grumpy. |
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:56 pm | |
| - XLR8 147 wrote:
- Grumpy....how long did it take to make that???
That's an insane new style bro! The shadows and the slightly foggy effect are really nice. The lines and shadows really make an awesome 3D effect. It's an awesome style, Grumpy. lol this is what it was suppose to look like, so in my eyes its like getting a D in a test. |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:16 pm | |
| Nah, it's just a slightly different style. I'm not the best at distinguishing art styles but one difference I can see is that the sharper-edged shadows in your work is a little lighter than the one you were trying to emulate. But don't listen to me....I wouldn't know where to begin with advanced colouring. In terms of emulation, I wouldn't say it's a D. But it's good to be a little harsh on yourself just so you're a bit motivated to improve. But you need to consider what you did right as well because to some people, positive criticism is more helpful than negative. Although I think it's a balance. A but of negative "try harder" self thoughts along with positive praise from other people should equate to higher motivation to improve. Who am I kidding....this is Grumpy we're talking about. He'll improve no matter what. I'm personally not one to emulate styles as most I've seen are just not compatible with my style or ideas. But emulation does help you grow as an artist I guess since you're exploring different components and using and rejecting some contribute to your own unique style. That's just my view anyway. Good work, whatever you were intending it to look like. |
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Gloryangel
FusionFall Name : Josie Gloryangel Level : 17 Posts : 2654 Join date : 2012-09-03 Age : 27 FF Location : ♫ ♪ where the party's at ♪ ♫
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:50 pm | |
| What even is this!!! It's not fair You're TOO good marcie, TOO good.... I mean, meanwhile i think i've gotten a solid style down.. But i still can't color for the life of me xD |
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:50 am | |
| I'm back bubby. Sweet Sweet Bubble Gum. |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:35 am | |
| - GrumpMySheep wrote:
- I'm back bubby.
Dat accuracy. And the eye style...man you mastered that stuff. You kind of have a signature eye look now. And interesting sword style. |
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:02 pm | |
| League Of Legends Sona And Ahri. |
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:03 pm | |
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Gloryangel
FusionFall Name : Josie Gloryangel Level : 17 Posts : 2654 Join date : 2012-09-03 Age : 27 FF Location : ♫ ♪ where the party's at ♪ ♫
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:26 am | |
| I'm a big fan grumps... BIG fan... I'm diggin' that guy... and the other picture is lovely!! But i already saw it.. soooo I love BOTH of the girls so adorbssss |
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 27 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:28 am | |
| I got 7 emails today, 4 from Xtreme and 3 from this thread. Wake up, Xtreme! Have some variety! |
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Gloryangel
FusionFall Name : Josie Gloryangel Level : 17 Posts : 2654 Join date : 2012-09-03 Age : 27 FF Location : ♫ ♪ where the party's at ♪ ♫
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:38 am | |
| You get emails from xtreme??
geez, if i were you i'd WANT xtreme to NOT be busy xD hahahahaha |
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Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 27 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:42 am | |
| - Gloryangel wrote:
- You get emails from xtreme??
geez, if i were you i'd WANT xtreme to NOT be busy xD hahahahaha I want to know when Xtreme isn't a barren wasteland. |
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:47 pm | |
| It's coming. |
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GrumpMySheep
FusionFall Name : Grumpy Druidsheep Level : 36 Posts : 869 Join date : 2013-12-04 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:01 pm | |
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Gloryangel
FusionFall Name : Josie Gloryangel Level : 17 Posts : 2654 Join date : 2012-09-03 Age : 27 FF Location : ♫ ♪ where the party's at ♪ ♫
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:00 pm | |
| Yaaaasssssssssssss!!!!
I like it! |
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XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Art Dumpster.Ment Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:58 pm | |
| That colouring style is amazing. |
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