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Moderator
Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:57 pm | |
| I've noticed we have been getting a couple of members from FusionMod. Personally, I love keeping up with affiliates of mine..............so long as they're not.......FFC. (no. I will never let that go)
But I see that ever since they got 65% of FusionFall Central's members, I thought that they were going to excel as FusionFall's number 1 fansite.
Does anyone know if they are doing okay?
Would some of you Mod HQ members know? I dont get on there much because I still got "New Forum" jitters.Also, I got enough of the reprucussions of breaking Rule 10 of the internet to last me a lifetime. Just kidding about that second one. ^_^
(Be back in a few though. Gonna go outside and trim mah hedges since I cant get on FusionFall and I've played all mah gamez.
Yus. This is what bored college bound adults do on Summer vacation Weekends...............Yard Work. Take notes kiddies)
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Zeroknight
Zero Knight
Level : 1000 Posts : 4671 Join date : 2012-07-03 Age : 25 FF Location : Rodeo
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:11 pm | |
| fusionmod isnt really even active ive been there only like 1 or 2 user online in day and posts from yesterday are always there.. is also confusing lol |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:18 pm | |
| actually it's doing fine! but they're live chat was down and then they got a real bad one in my opinon. but yeah mostly doing RP cause it's fun |
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Zeroknight
Zero Knight
Level : 1000 Posts : 4671 Join date : 2012-07-03 Age : 25 FF Location : Rodeo
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:22 pm | |
| how many topics are there I didnt care to count to many |
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Moderator
Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:23 pm | |
| So they seem to be doing fine only with their live chat sessions and their Role Play sessions???
Thats rather disheartening. I was hoping that they were gonna pull it off and become active again. |
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Zeroknight
Zero Knight
Level : 1000 Posts : 4671 Join date : 2012-07-03 Age : 25 FF Location : Rodeo
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:29 pm | |
| - Undelos wrote:
- So they seem to be doing fine only with their live chat sessions and their Role Play sessions???
Thats rather disheartening. I was hoping that they were gonna pull it off and become active again. Dude they have like so many topics only like for I think are active but its really inactive I think there is only 2 very active topics theres like 15 topics i think lol |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:44 pm | |
| Probably the most often used forum there is the RP because it's fun and not many people go on the bad chat now. |
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Moderator
Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:45 pm | |
| I know when I first joined here, we usually only had about 2 active topics each day. It wasn't like five or six. That kind of traffic didnt come until recently.
But It was still fun though. I guess they're having a hard time getting it going though. I've looked in their General discussions and I see that they DO have alot of threads and all of them are showing up as new posts to me so I couldn't even tell how many are active.
It seems like they also had six people online when I got there. Thats our new average. I guess it's a step down for them though........... |
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Moderator
Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:45 pm | |
| - Undead Brad wrote:
- Probably the most often used forum there is the RP because it's fun and not many people go on the bad chat now.
What happened with their chat? |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:48 pm | |
| It kept making the site REALLY slow, so Jake (the owner of the site) shut it down and got a new one thats not that good and he's still trying to find another one. |
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100th Member!
Professor Utonium
FusionFall Name : Roxie Leeblossom Level : 36 Posts : 107 Join date : 2012-07-10 FF Location : The City of Townsville!
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:49 pm | |
| We are really active, but most people get in the chat. |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:49 pm | |
| yeah they are but chat seems to be empty a bit and I really dislike the new chat. |
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Zeroknight
Zero Knight
Level : 1000 Posts : 4671 Join date : 2012-07-03 Age : 25 FF Location : Rodeo
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:53 pm | |
| - Undead Brad wrote:
- yeah they are but chat seems to be empty a bit and I really dislike the new chat.
They should have less topics when I come there it looks like a desert. |
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RETIRED Administrator
XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:09 pm | |
| - Undelos wrote:
It seems like they also had six people online when I got there. Thats our new average. I guess it's a step down for them though........... Come on.... 6 was our average shortly after you joined. We usually have about 8-25 on average I don't know often you come on but we've certainly passed the,6 mark over a year ago. That reminds me.....WE NEED MORE UPGRADES ON THIS FORUM.... MOAR! |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:13 pm | |
| - XLR8 147 wrote:
- Undelos wrote:
It seems like they also had six people online when I got there. Thats our new average. I guess it's a step down for them though........... Come on.... 6 was our average shortly after you joined. We usually have about 8-25 on average I don't know often you come on but we've certainly passed the,6 mark over a year ago. That reminds me.....WE NEED MORE UPGRADES ON THIS FORUM.... MOAR! YESH! Like maybe a list of most of the missions which I could easily make for ya! |
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RETIRED Administrator
XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:15 pm | |
| @Undead Brad, I'm currently on my phone and away from my laptop but I'll see if I can do some more upgrading.....later.... |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:17 pm | |
| - XLR8 147 wrote:
- @Undead Brad, I'm currently on my phone and away from my laptop but I'll see if I can do some more upgrading.....later....
Okay! And if you need help with the mission thingy I could give you a list of mostly every mission in the game, World,Guide and nano |
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RETIRED Administrator
XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:22 pm | |
| Sounds good! But doesn't fusionfall Wikia have that already and this is a forum what's the need for that kind of general info? I was thinking upgrades like graphical changes and if possible, new ranking and scoring systems. Should we introduce "kudos" aka rating a post as helpful? I also think there should be a report button so mods don't have to work as hard seeing as members can report officially rater than just regular PMs. I think we need a new background and a new layout/skin. |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:23 pm | |
| Weeeeeell I guess so but most people hardly check it and it could be useful to some n00bs on FF. And for the skin of the site you could have like pictures of the members on here avatars in FF |
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RETIRED Administrator
XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:32 pm | |
| I've just had an awesome idea thanks Brad! |
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Moderator
Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:33 pm | |
| Make sure you keep the bright look X. It's not as visually impacting as a Dark Forum, But I've noticed that it is MUCH easier on the eyes.
I sure wish I could help with the new upgrade. *sigh* feeling useless all over again is never fun....... I dont know about a "Kudos" thing. Do you SEEERIOUSLY want a ranking system for the Threads that we make here. Between Hom describing his newest adventure of trolling of Death, Bradleys blood lust, and Oliver's amazing ability to go type a novel in one post.............
Then again...........
That does sound appropriate! I approve! |
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RETIRED Administrator
XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:35 pm | |
| I was kinda unsure of the idea but I guess we'll just have to see...
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:38 pm | |
| im still a bit confused of the Kudos thing, may someone tell me what X means? |
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RETIRED Administrator
XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:45 pm | |
| It's kinda like a thanks button and it shows on your profile how many thanks you've got and how many times you've thanked someone else...really I think it might be a bit pointless and may encourage an unnecessary competitive nature in the forum....I shouldn't, have suggested it lol.. ... |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:47 pm | |
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Moderator
hom
FusionFall Name : hom choi Level : 36 Posts : 3753 Join date : 2012-02-05 FF Location : home.
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:49 pm | |
| Actually X as much as it would make people competitive it would make good behaviour... Like 5 Thanks and you GETS A SUPER SPECIAL THANKIES FROM HOM! But then again people would be nice for the wrong reaosns |
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Moderator
Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:05 am | |
| Dunno. I'd like to give everyone more credit than that. I guess just try it out. If it doesn't work out, at least it was better than not trying it out at all. It's good for preventing regrets.
Hey X!
We got off topic again. |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:12 am | |
| - Undelos wrote:
- Dunno. I'd like to give everyone more credit than that. I guess just try it out. If it doesn't work out, at least it was better than not trying it out at all. It's good for preventing regrets.
Hey X!
We got off topic again. That's a surprise |
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Moderator
Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:24 am | |
| It's more of an inside joke this time. |
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Member
thefusescape
FusionFall Name : Eternal Axecranston Level : 36 Posts : 248 Join date : 2012-07-30
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:03 pm | |
| Fusion mod isn't doing the best sadly. I was going to join when this site first came up but I never got around to it til now sadly. What is so terrible about fmhq is the fact that it has some annoying mods there. Not to mention it is a group of what I wouldn't call adventerous or even hopeful players. |
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RETIRED Administrator
XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:45 pm | |
| Hi thefusescape! Welcome to the Xtreme FusionFall forum! I was on that site near its beginning but I'm not sure if we knew each other at the time. Glad you joined! If you need any help or requests, just ask. Xtreme FusionFall is an affiliate fan site of FFModHQ. (They are linked sites but with different site owners, communities, etc.) Xtreme and ffmod are both very different websites but we joined in the hope to bring the FusionFall/ex-FusionFall community, closer. I can assure you that we are a friendly bunch as well as most of us being hopeful. Did you have a specific name on that site's chat or forum or...? Oh wait... when you said you joined the site when it opened, do you mean fusionmodhq.com or jdurr-fusionfall.yolasite.com or fusionfrenzy.yolasite.com (or was it fusionfallfrenzy.yolasite.com....) ? There have been a few versions of that site. Although this site has kept its name since it opened. (Lol couldn't think of a reason to change its name. ) |
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Member
thefusescape
FusionFall Name : Eternal Axecranston Level : 36 Posts : 248 Join date : 2012-07-30
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:05 pm | |
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RETIRED Administrator
XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:10 pm | |
| - thefusescape wrote:
- I have no idea lolz
Lol. I just saw a post of yours on that site. You joined in late May. I joined that particular forum recently too but I hardly use it but from time to time, I check my PM inbox there. What's your FusionFall in game name by the way? If you don't mind me asking? |
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Officer
Officer Second
FusionFall Name : Officer Second Level : 35 Posts : 2069 Join date : 2012-06-23 Age : 26 FF Location : Orchid Bay (The Docks)
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:23 pm | |
| Fusionmod reminds me a lot of Fusion Fall central. |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:28 pm | |
| - Officer Second wrote:
- Fusionmod reminds me a lot of Fusion Fall central.
well mostly everyone from FFC came over to that site but at least they don't ban people for no reason! |
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Moderator
Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:38 pm | |
| - Officer Second wrote:
- Fusionmod reminds me a lot of Fusion Fall central.
Well, That's dissapointing. They were supposed to be everything good that FFC did good and everything that FFC lacked. I wish them the best though. Hope they make it. - XLR8 147 wrote:
Although this site has kept its name since it opened. (Lol couldn't think of a reason to change its name. ) NEVER. NEVER CHANGE XTREME'S NAME.Or you shall face reprucussions of the Slenderman and Bella variety! |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:39 pm | |
| - Undelos wrote:
- XLR8 147 wrote:
Although this site has kept its name since it opened. (Lol couldn't think of a reason to change its name. ) NEVER. NEVER CHANGE XTREME'S NAME.
Or you shall face reprucussions of the Slenderman and Bella variety! Why Ultimate Xtreme? |
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Officer
Officer Second
FusionFall Name : Officer Second Level : 35 Posts : 2069 Join date : 2012-06-23 Age : 26 FF Location : Orchid Bay (The Docks)
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:39 pm | |
| I saw a site called xtreme 13 what is that? |
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Tech Support & MOD
Oli Zombieweasel
FusionFall Name : Oli Zombieweasel Level : 36 Posts : 13322 Join date : 2011-11-19 Age : 28 FF Location : Aionios
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:41 pm | |
| - Undead Brad wrote:
- Undelos wrote:
- XLR8 147 wrote:
Although this site has kept its name since it opened. (Lol couldn't think of a reason to change its name. ) NEVER. NEVER CHANGE XTREME'S NAME.
Or you shall face reprucussions of the Slenderman and Bella variety! Why Ultimate Xtreme? Ultimate Xtreme sounds like an alien off Ben 10: UA that's been evolved twice! "Ultimate Xtreme Spidermonkey!" |
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Moderator
Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:53 pm | |
| - Officer Second wrote:
- I saw a site called xtreme 13 what is that?
(Is currently enjoyng moment) The site is called Xtreme FusionFall +13. We don't speak of it here too much because inside secrets on forums are hilarious. Google it and find it. Then look for a thread called: Line Art: Breaking the Ice. Compare the content of the posts with the ones that we make here and you should get the picture. |
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RETIRED Administrator
XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:54 pm | |
| - Officer Second wrote:
- I saw a site called xtreme 13 what is that?
It's the other Xtreme FusionFall forum but XFF13 is for 13 year olds and over. It contains inappropriate language and themes.
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Dragoon
Dragoongamer86
FusionFall Name : Zane Sunboskov Level : 36 Posts : 4292 Join date : 2012-06-11 Age : 25 FF Location : The little secluded island in Bravo Beach thinking
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:55 pm | |
| so almost everyone here also has an account there |
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Officer
Officer Second
FusionFall Name : Officer Second Level : 35 Posts : 2069 Join date : 2012-06-23 Age : 26 FF Location : Orchid Bay (The Docks)
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:55 pm | |
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Moderator
Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:56 pm | |
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Moderator
hom
FusionFall Name : hom choi Level : 36 Posts : 3753 Join date : 2012-02-05 FF Location : home.
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:57 pm | |
| That Thread...
OhGodWhy.JPG |
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Moderator
Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:02 pm | |
| Hey, everyone kept wanting a spicy picture of Bella and I was 84% sure I could pull it off so I went on ahead and did it.
Ya just can't ask me to make a steamy picture of a guy character. That I WILL have a problem with. THANK GOD it never occoured to Bella that I could do a picture of X..... |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:03 pm | |
| - Undelos wrote:
- Hey, everyone kept wanting a spicy picture of Bella and I was 84% sure I could pull it off so I went on ahead and did it.
Ya just can't ask me to make a steamy picture of a guy character. That I WILL have a problem with. THANK GOD it never occoured to Bella that I could do a picture of X..... Do it or no walls shall live! Or... I will attack with my Fang girls |
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RETIRED Administrator
XLR8 147
FusionFall Name : XLR8 147 + IRON 147 Level : 36 Posts : 5882 Join date : 2010-08-21 Age : 28 FF Location : Sector V [Future :D]
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:09 pm | |
| @Undead Brad, "fang" girl? I smell a parody cooking. And yeah I'm referring to Bella and a certain teenage vampire movie franchise.... |
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Undead Brad
Undead Brad
FusionFall Name : The Cypher Level : 0 Posts : 3182 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 23 FF Location : The Abyss
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:19 pm | |
| - XLR8 147 wrote:
- @Undead Brad, "fang" girl?
I smell a parody cooking. They are basically bella, but even more demented and invincible and likes to "play" with angel boys |
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Moderator
Tentegen
FusionFall Name : Jazz "Mau" Taluring Level : 21 Posts : 6296 Join date : 2011-09-06 Age : 33 FF Location : Sustained Panic
| Subject: Re: Is FusionMod Doing okay? Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:29 pm | |
| Wow. Who knows a demon better than a demon? Bradley's got it! Fang girls love to "play" with their food before they eat it. Wait! Did you just ask me to DO a picture of X like that!? ...eeh I don't know. Girls are easy. There's no alterior thoughts that go with doing it. There's just lines and porportional correctness. That's it. Guys however....the mind gets cloudy. Please don't ask me to explain this any deeper... |
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